best spring for use with bilsteins
best spring for use with bilsteins i have the bilstein hds and stock non ws6 springs as of now im looking for better weight transfer but still good handeling also my car already sits lower than a firehawk does and i dont think i can really dropit much more due to my 17x 11 wheels in rear so please take that into cnsideration when suggesting
thnx,
john
thnx,
john
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The issue isn't necessarily spring height. It has to do with spring rates. The Bilstein HD's are valved for factory spring rates. Any aftermarket springs will have different rates that adversely effect the shock.
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Here are some spring specs: http://www.angelfire.com/my/fastcar/suspension.html
Just keep in mind that upgraded shocks would be the best route to go with any of those.
Just keep in mind that upgraded shocks would be the best route to go with any of those.
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I hope this isn’t the case since my 1LE springs arrived yesterday, and my Bilstein shocks should show up today. In the Bilstein catalog they list “Camaro All Models”. There is no separate listing for “standard suspension” or “1LE suspension”. Therefore I would (did) assume that Bilstein believes their HD shock can handle both spring rates.
Hopeful,
Gene
Hopeful,
Gene
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"Camaro All Models" means they fit V6s and V8s, I believe.
Bilsteins will work with those springs for a while. Like I said, they are not optimum and will wear out more quickly than proper shocks.
Bilsteins will work with those springs for a while. Like I said, they are not optimum and will wear out more quickly than proper shocks.
John
I just got 4 Koni Single Adjustables and I use Pro-Kit and I also have the 11" with 315s. I will be installing them soon and will be able to give you feedback. I did lots of research and this is probably one of the best setups for a daily driver.
I just got 4 Koni Single Adjustables and I use Pro-Kit and I also have the 11" with 315s. I will be installing them soon and will be able to give you feedback. I did lots of research and this is probably one of the best setups for a daily driver.
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Here are some spring specs: http://www.angelfire.com/my/fastcar/suspension.html
Just keep in mind that upgraded shocks would be the best route to go with any of those.
Just keep in mind that upgraded shocks would be the best route to go with any of those.
Most have said the QA1's are softer but based on my driving experience they are about the same or stiffer as the numbers indicate.
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Originally Posted by ZaneO
Here are some spring specs: http://www.angelfire.com/my/fastcar/suspension.html
Just keep in mind that upgraded shocks would be the best route to go with any of those.
Just keep in mind that upgraded shocks would be the best route to go with any of those.
Another question: can anyone explain the herein stated mechanism of why stiffer (numerically higher) spring rates will adversely affect shock wear? It seems intuitive to me that having a stiffer spring would take burden off the shock since it's reducing the amount of travel (per road imperfection encountered) that the shock would have to absorb. I was thinking the problem with aftermarket springs (specifically: lowering springs) in increasing shock wear was due to the decreased amount of travel. Is this not correct?
And as such, am I then falsely assuming that a higher spring rate is actually BETTER on a set of lowering springs? Since making them stiffer would, in a sense, compensate for the loss of travel by not putting as much burden on the shocks?
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Shocks are spring dampers. If the shocks are not designed to damp the higher spring rates, it will wear them out faster. That's why there are aftermarket shocks designed to handle shorter springs and higher rates.
Sam Strano or someone else might be able to give you more specific details about the shock piston, etc. in regards to wearing.
Sam Strano or someone else might be able to give you more specific details about the shock piston, etc. in regards to wearing.
