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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Yeah I saw the ***** at their store. I went ahead and ordered one. I didn't look at the link last night so I didn't know there were pics. Thanks for posting up
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:56 AM
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well I went out and adjusted the back shocks like Sam suggested and the ride is a lot better. I still need to fine tune it some but its a lot better than before. I think the front is pretty close to what Sam suggests but I'll adjust it to be sure. But the ride is a lot better, Feels really good. I love these shocks so far
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Whats the difference between SAs and DAs? Obviously single versus double. But which are for what applications? I saw someone running DAs up front and Re-Bilsteins out back. Anyone know. ?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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I haven't seen anything to tell me that DA are worth it on ANY application. Sam has won national championships on SA's, and it makes me think that DA just gives you more choices to mess up. SA are a good fit for a lot of people IMO. We'll see if I stick to that opinion after I get mine installed.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Sam says in most cases the DAs aren't needed. He used DAs for a race or two and he went back to SAs. If you look at the links to the other threads that were posted up on the 1st page there is some good info about DAs
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 01 Red WS6
Sam says in most cases the DAs aren't needed. He used DAs for a race or two and he went back to SAs. If you look at the links to the other threads that were posted up on the 1st page there is some good info about DAs
I used DA's longer than that.....
BUT, every time I tried to use any bump, I hated it and went back to full soft-right where SA's bump is set. Frankly, the only reason DA's came off (being in fine shape) was because people are very strange sometimes. They'd ask what I recommend, I'd tell them SA's. But sometimes folks wanted to look under my car, which is just fine. When they saw the bump adjuster they'd go nuts. Suddenly I lied to them and crap like that. I actually gave one guy a screwdriver and told him to see where they were set before going crazy. After that, he calmed down. So I switched just to eliminate the problem.

What I find most entertaining is that if I were going to lie, it'd make a lot more sense to tell everyone they NEED!!! DA's instead.....

DA's have their place, but it's very rare. And as good as the Koni Rebound adjuster is, the bump adjuster on the twin tube shocks (like these) isn't anwhere near as nice. They work, but use them if you need them and have a clue as to how to use them. I know how to use them, I don't need (or personally want) them. I have that set of DA's still, they are spares should I ever need them.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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OK makes sense, I have a quick question. If I used Konis SA in the front what else besides Re-Bilsteins work for the rear? Do they always have to be brand matched?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000Z28M6
OK makes sense, I have a quick question. If I used Konis SA in the front what else besides Re-Bilsteins work for the rear? Do they always have to be brand matched?
Most people get Koni SA (4th gen is best, 3rd gen is still good) or Bilstein (HD unless lowered, for which you need revalved I believe). You could probably put about anything back there, but why? The rears really aren't all that expensive.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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I like em, they go all the way from dragstrip wobbly to stiff as a brick. Settings change depending on my mood!
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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I like em, they go all the way from dragstrip wobbly to stiff as a brick. Settings change depending on my mood!
Now that's what I want to hear. I've been looking for people that have used these at the drag strip. Have you? I won't race much until I get a new rearend, but I like having shocks that will transfer weight a lot better than stock...and the fact that they give awesome handling and a great ride...that's why I went with them. I'm so excited to put them on!
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000Z28M6
I saw someone running DAs up front and Re-Bilsteins out back. Anyone know. ?
Revalved rear Bilsteins are pretty rare because they don't make economical sense. You can get the Koni SA rears for quite a bit less than a revalved Bilstein. So most folks go that route. The only reason I could see someone having that done was if they were very familiar with shock valving and had a very specific setting in mind that they wanted to try. For everybody else, the Koni SA is the better choice.

As for drag racing, in theory they should work pretty well. At the track, jack up the front. Adjust the front shock rebound to full soft (while counting the sweeps so you can put it back afterwards.) Then when you launch, it should allow the shock to extend easily to let the weight transfer to the rear. I haven't tried it as I'm not into drag racing, but in theory, it should work.

If you wanted to, you could also undo one of the front sway bar endlinks as well for even more weight transfer.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
Revalved rear Bilsteins are pretty rare because they don't make economical sense. You can get the Koni SA rears for quite a bit less than a revalved Bilstein. So most folks go that route. The only reason I could see someone having that done was if they were very familiar with shock valving and had a very specific setting in mind that they wanted to try. For everybody else, the Koni SA is the better choice.

As for drag racing, in theory they should work pretty well. At the track, jack up the front. Adjust the front shock rebound to full soft (while counting the sweeps so you can put it back afterwards.) Then when you launch, it should allow the shock to extend easily to let the weight transfer to the rear. I haven't tried it as I'm not into drag racing, but in theory, it should work.

If you wanted to, you could also undo one of the front sway bar endlinks as well for even more weight transfer.

That's what I plan on doing once I'm ready for the track.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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My bad Sam I remembered reading that you had the DAs on for some races but I wasn't sure for how long. Its funny people would freak out when they see you have DAs and you suggest the SAs I would be thankful that you suggested the less expensive ones. I was more than happy with all the help you offered me when I ordered
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