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? on G2 springs im looking to get the G2 springs in place of the GC kit i already have. Any way i called LG to ask how much they were the guy tells me 229 and it will be 259 shipped. Since when is it $30 bucks to ship springs 
so i say ok and ask what are the spring rates on the springs the guy tells me "i dont know" i say well is there a way you can find out he tells me "No!" so i dont see any reason why these springs would be any better than the GC kit i already have cause other than saying they were made by lou i dont see an advantage other than everyone that has them likes them.
Any reason why LG would dance around ?'s or not want to give any info out on their springs?
so i say ok and ask what are the spring rates on the springs the guy tells me "i dont know" i say well is there a way you can find out he tells me "No!" so i dont see any reason why these springs would be any better than the GC kit i already have cause other than saying they were made by lou i dont see an advantage other than everyone that has them likes them. Any reason why LG would dance around ?'s or not want to give any info out on their springs?
550# front
180-230# rear (progressive rate)
Springs are heavy, $30 is reasonable. Figure $20 actual shipping, $10 in pocket. Easy profit...no biggie.
What rates do you have on your GC kit currently? The GC kit is a step above because you can adjust ride height. With LG Springs (or any aftermarket spring), you're stuck with the ride height they give.
Don't know why the sales guy said that to you...maybe he ate some bad Chinese...
180-230# rear (progressive rate)
Springs are heavy, $30 is reasonable. Figure $20 actual shipping, $10 in pocket. Easy profit...no biggie.
What rates do you have on your GC kit currently? The GC kit is a step above because you can adjust ride height. With LG Springs (or any aftermarket spring), you're stuck with the ride height they give.
Don't know why the sales guy said that to you...maybe he ate some bad Chinese...
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maybe, the GC kit im running now is a 500/150 i dont like it cause i cant adjust the rear cause of the moser (longstory short) id rather have the G2 springs instead so i dont have to worry about adjusting it.
[QUOTE]maybe, the GC kit im running now is a 500/150 i dont like it cause i cant adjust the rear cause of the moser (longstory short) id rather have the G2 springs instead so i dont have to worry about adjusting it.
which moser rear do you have 9 " or the 12 bolt ?
which moser rear do you have 9 " or the 12 bolt ?
The GC kit is way better. If you want 550lb springs up front, you can buy them for about $50ea. If the rear is your main problem, you can cut the 150lbs to lower the ride height. With more info I can tell you the spring rate change. Or do you need a taller rear spring?
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i have a set of g2 springs i have yet to put in. does anyone know how much lower it should be in the front over the factory bilstein eibach suspension--my rear sits nice but the front is like a 4x4....i was thinking of cutting a coil on the g2's......what do u think?
sorry if i jumped in on ur thread man ive asked 3 times elsewhere and no one knows....
sorry if i jumped in on ur thread man ive asked 3 times elsewhere and no one knows....
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
The GC kit is way better. If you want 550lb springs up front, you can buy them for about $50ea. If the rear is your main problem, you can cut the 150lbs to lower the ride height. With more info I can tell you the spring rate change. Or do you need a taller rear spring?
i need a taller spring, maybe about a 1/8" or so. I was thinking if a machine shop can make me some spacers but theres not many custom shops here in SA.
http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=23987
http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=23986
You can stack them to get the height you desire
http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=23986
You can stack them to get the height you desire
Originally Posted by ls2 bait
i have a set of g2 springs i have yet to put in. does anyone know how much lower it should be in the front over the factory bilstein eibach suspension--my rear sits nice but the front is like a 4x4....i was thinking of cutting a coil on the g2's......what do u think?
sorry if i jumped in on ur thread man ive asked 3 times elsewhere and no one knows....
sorry if i jumped in on ur thread man ive asked 3 times elsewhere and no one knows....
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=23987
http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=23986
You can stack them to get the height you desire
http://www.pitstopusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=23986
You can stack them to get the height you desire
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you think that will have any effect on handling?
Originally Posted by 6']['9
you think that will have any effect on handling?
1/8" is almost nothing. You could stick one rubber spacer into each spring and get that with virtually no change in rate. They cost like 5 bucks and can be had at the local autoparts store.
http://gmocart2.gmotion.com/store/me...ing_suspension
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Yes, the increased ride height will allow more suspension travel so it will use the stops less. These are all good things.
1/8" is almost nothing. You could stick one rubber spacer into each spring and get that with virtually no change in rate. They cost like 5 bucks and can be had at the local autoparts store.
http://gmocart2.gmotion.com/store/me...ing_suspension
1/8" is almost nothing. You could stick one rubber spacer into each spring and get that with virtually no change in rate. They cost like 5 bucks and can be had at the local autoparts store.
http://gmocart2.gmotion.com/store/me...ing_suspension
but will that help raise the rear a bit or is that just for added support.
Originally Posted by 6']['9
but will that help raise the rear a bit or is that just for added support.
Each coil at the end of the spring is considered a dead coil because it does not contribute to the weight load. They are merely there for support. The other coils (minus the end ones) are the active coils. They determine the rate.
The GC rear springs have few coils so each one supports more load then the stock spring. Your 150 looks to have about 5 active coils meaning each coil is responsible for about 30lbs. Adding one rubber spacer (possibly too much, try trimming the center to make it thinner) and mounting it near the top most coil should increase the ride height with minimal increase in rate. Assuming that they measure at 150/inch, the rate may go up to about 155lb. You shouldn't notice that.
Just take one regular rubber spacer like in the link I showed and just tuck it into the upper coil as far as it will go. Check the ride height. If it is too high, then make the rubber spacer a little thinner.
Here's a pic that might help.
It's as simple as that. 1/8" is really small, I usually adjust my springs in 1/4" increments. I've been running my modded stock rear springs for over a year now with no bad effects. I used a combination of cutting and spacers to get my 26 1/4" ride height and 170lb rate.
There's no reason you should have to spend a lot of money just to make your rear a little higher. Try this simple procedure and see if it does what you want it to.
Last edited by JasonWW; May 30, 2005 at 12:03 PM.
Originally Posted by 6']['9
thanks ill try that, how did you get the 170lb spring rate in the rear?
I also use a hydraulic press and a scale in a rig I made up to measure the actaul spring rate. I tested my theories and have been very accurate in calculating new spring rates. It's pretty easy once you get the hang of it.
Originally Posted by ls2 bait
i have a set of g2 springs i have yet to put in. does anyone know how much lower it should be in the front over the factory bilstein eibach suspension--my rear sits nice but the front is like a 4x4....i was thinking of cutting a coil on the g2's......what do u think?
sorry if i jumped in on ur thread man ive asked 3 times elsewhere and no one knows....
sorry if i jumped in on ur thread man ive asked 3 times elsewhere and no one knows....
