Brake Help Needed
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Brake Help Needed
I noticed my brakes where making all this squeaking noise about three weaks ago.First thought that came to my mind was to change the brake pads.I take off the wheel and inspect the pads.They where all worn down bad.Went to napa and got me some pads for front and the rear and installed them.Problem was solved for about 2 weeks,then the squeaking began again.Could I've done something wrong or could it be something else.Need help.thanks
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I've never had good luck with after market (pep boys, Autozone) brands. I found out a long time ago that its best to turn the rotors at the same time. I've bought an extra set of rotors to minimize down time. I get the rotors turned when time & money permit.
I use factory pads. I would get too much brake fade or squeal with after market pads.
I use factory pads. I would get too much brake fade or squeal with after market pads.
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The "Handling & Braking" section is a better place for this topic:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-16/
Anyway, on topic...
* When changing pads, inspect the rotors.
* The rotor may need to be turned. If they are the original rotors, replace them with a good factory replacement (ex: Brembo OEM Blanks available at TireRack)
* Get a deceant set of pads (This varies wildly, I -- and many others -- use Hawk HPS pads available at TireRack)
* The squeek can come from many places.
---The pads should have come with anti-squeel shims and/or grease. The shims may have already been attached to the back of the pads. If they didnt come with anti-squeel grease, you can get some from the auto parts store and apply it to the back of the pads
---Some pads inherently squeek. Carbon-Metallic pads will squeek slightly, Race pads will definatly squeek.
* When doing the brakes:
---Inspect the caliper pistons for wear (rust/gouging/pittng)
---Inspect the rubber caliper piston boots for tears or other damage
---Inspect the rubber caliper sliding pin boots for tears or other damage
---Make sure the caliper sliding pins move freely
* Follow the pad and rotor manufacturers instructions for the proper break-in process.
BTW, everything that I have said could have been found in a quick search in the "Handling & Braking" section.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-16/
Anyway, on topic...
* When changing pads, inspect the rotors.
* The rotor may need to be turned. If they are the original rotors, replace them with a good factory replacement (ex: Brembo OEM Blanks available at TireRack)
* Get a deceant set of pads (This varies wildly, I -- and many others -- use Hawk HPS pads available at TireRack)
* The squeek can come from many places.
---The pads should have come with anti-squeel shims and/or grease. The shims may have already been attached to the back of the pads. If they didnt come with anti-squeel grease, you can get some from the auto parts store and apply it to the back of the pads
---Some pads inherently squeek. Carbon-Metallic pads will squeek slightly, Race pads will definatly squeek.
* When doing the brakes:
---Inspect the caliper pistons for wear (rust/gouging/pittng)
---Inspect the rubber caliper piston boots for tears or other damage
---Inspect the rubber caliper sliding pin boots for tears or other damage
---Make sure the caliper sliding pins move freely
* Follow the pad and rotor manufacturers instructions for the proper break-in process.
BTW, everything that I have said could have been found in a quick search in the "Handling & Braking" section.
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One thing is for sure about this site. You will get a lot of "search for it" when you post if it is something as simple as this to find. Just thought I would let you know to save you the trouble of being harassed for not using the search button.
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Originally Posted by ROCNDAV
I never have squeaking with factory pads. I'm not sure about High Performance type pads, they may need a break in.
I'm also having trouble with squeaking with aftermarket pads
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98-02 F body Brakes (Front)
1. Housing, FRT BRK CLPR (Part of Kit 1).........................................NPN
2. Bolt, FRT BRK CLPR Guide Pin (Part of 10, Kit1, Kit2, Kit3) M8x1.25.....(4)...18026153
3. Cap, FRT BRK CLPR Bleeder valve (Part of Kit 1)...............................NPN
4. VALVE, FRT BRK CLPR Bleeder Valve (Part of Kit 1).......................(2)...18029799
5. SEAL, FRT BRK CLPR Bleeder valve............................................. .NPN
6. PIN, FRT BRK CLPR GDE............................................... ....(4)...18026161
7. SPRING, FRT BRK SHOW A/RTL (includes 2 springs) (Part of Kit3)..........(2)...18026181
8. SEAL, FRT BRK CLPR GDE PIN..............................................( 4)...18026151
9. PAD, FRT DISC DRK INNER (Part of Kit3)........................................NPN
10. BRACKET, FRT BRK CLPR (includes 2, 11)
98-02 (J65, EXC Z4C).............................................. ..(2)...18026163
02 (Z4C)............................................. ...............(2)...18046301
11. SHIM, FRT BRK PAD (Anit-Noise) (Part of 10, Kit3) (Includes 4 shims)....(2)...18026164
12. PAD, FRT DISC DRK OUTER (Part of Kit3)........................................NPN
13. PISTON, FRT BRK CLPR (Part of Kit1).....................................(4)...18 026162
14. BOOT, FRT BRK CLPR PSTN (Part of Kit 1, Kit2).................................NPN
15. SEAL, FRT BRK CLPR PSTN (Part of Kit 1, Kit2).................................NPN
Kit1 CALIPER, FRT BRK (includes 1-4, 13-15)
98-02 (J65, EXC Z4C).............................................. ..(LH)..18042491
98-02 (J65, EXC Z4C).............................................. ..(RH)..18042492
02 (Z4C)............................................. ...............(LH)..18046299
02 (Z4C)............................................. ...............(RH)..18046300
Kit2 CALIPER KIT, FRT BRK (includes 2, 14, 15)
Kit3 PAD KIT, FRT BRK (includes 2,7,9,11,12)
98 (J65)............................................. .....................18026165
98-00................................................ .....................18038574
99-02 J65............................................... ..................18026293
2. Bolt, FRT BRK CLPR Guide Pin (Part of 10, Kit1, Kit2, Kit3) M8x1.25.....(4)...18026153
3. Cap, FRT BRK CLPR Bleeder valve (Part of Kit 1)...............................NPN
4. VALVE, FRT BRK CLPR Bleeder Valve (Part of Kit 1).......................(2)...18029799
5. SEAL, FRT BRK CLPR Bleeder valve............................................. .NPN
6. PIN, FRT BRK CLPR GDE............................................... ....(4)...18026161
7. SPRING, FRT BRK SHOW A/RTL (includes 2 springs) (Part of Kit3)..........(2)...18026181
8. SEAL, FRT BRK CLPR GDE PIN..............................................( 4)...18026151
9. PAD, FRT DISC DRK INNER (Part of Kit3)........................................NPN
10. BRACKET, FRT BRK CLPR (includes 2, 11)
98-02 (J65, EXC Z4C).............................................. ..(2)...18026163
02 (Z4C)............................................. ...............(2)...18046301
11. SHIM, FRT BRK PAD (Anit-Noise) (Part of 10, Kit3) (Includes 4 shims)....(2)...18026164
12. PAD, FRT DISC DRK OUTER (Part of Kit3)........................................NPN
13. PISTON, FRT BRK CLPR (Part of Kit1).....................................(4)...18 026162
14. BOOT, FRT BRK CLPR PSTN (Part of Kit 1, Kit2).................................NPN
15. SEAL, FRT BRK CLPR PSTN (Part of Kit 1, Kit2).................................NPN
Kit1 CALIPER, FRT BRK (includes 1-4, 13-15)
98-02 (J65, EXC Z4C).............................................. ..(LH)..18042491
98-02 (J65, EXC Z4C).............................................. ..(RH)..18042492
02 (Z4C)............................................. ...............(LH)..18046299
02 (Z4C)............................................. ...............(RH)..18046300
Kit2 CALIPER KIT, FRT BRK (includes 2, 14, 15)
Kit3 PAD KIT, FRT BRK (includes 2,7,9,11,12)
98 (J65)............................................. .....................18026165
98-00................................................ .....................18038574
99-02 J65............................................... ..................18026293
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98-02 F body Brakes (Rear)
1. Bracket, RR BRK CLPR (On Caliper).................................(2)...124 56459
2. SHIM, RR BRK PAD (Part of Kit 1)..............................................NP N
3. PAD, RR DISC BRK OUTER (Part of Kit 1)........................................NPN
4. PAD, RR DISC DRK INNER (Part of Kit 1)........................................NPN
5. Housing, RR BRK CLPR (Part of Kit 1)..........................................NPN
6. SEAL, RR BRK CLPR PSTN (Part of Kit 2, Kit3)...........................(2)....12530709
7. BOOT, RR BRK CLPR PSTN (Part of Kit 2, Kit3)...........................(2)....12530707
8. PISTON, RR BRK CLPR (Part of Kit2).....................................(2)....1 2453509
9. Cap, RR BRK CLPR Bleeder valve (Part of Kit 2)................................NPN
10. VALVE, RR BRK CLPR Bleeder Valve (Part of Kit 2).......................(2)....14071826
11. SPRING, RR BRK ANTI/RATTLE (Part of Kit1, Kit2)...............................NPN
12. BOOT, RR BRK CLPR Guide Pin (Part of Kit3)..............................(4)...12530703
13. PIN, RR BRK CLPR GDE............................................... .....(4)...18026161
14. BOLT, RR BRK CLPR (Part of Kit1, Kit2, Kit3)............................(4)...14067559
Kit1 PAD KIT, RR BRK (includes 2-4,11,14)
98-99 (J65)............................................. ..................12454972
98-99................................................ .....................18039835
00 (J65) 1st design, use for VINS prior to 2G1FP22K6Y2100381).............18038575
00 (J65) 2nd design, use for VINS after 2G1FP22K6Y2100381)................12454972
01-02 (J65)............................................. ..................12454972
Kit2 CALIPER, RR BRK (includes 5-11, 14)
98-02 (J65)............................................. ............(LH)..12455127
98-02 (J65)............................................. ............(RH)..12455128
Kit3 REPAIR KIT, RR BRK CLPR HYD (includes 6, 7, 12, 14).....................(2)..12530687
2. SHIM, RR BRK PAD (Part of Kit 1)..............................................NP N
3. PAD, RR DISC BRK OUTER (Part of Kit 1)........................................NPN
4. PAD, RR DISC DRK INNER (Part of Kit 1)........................................NPN
5. Housing, RR BRK CLPR (Part of Kit 1)..........................................NPN
6. SEAL, RR BRK CLPR PSTN (Part of Kit 2, Kit3)...........................(2)....12530709
7. BOOT, RR BRK CLPR PSTN (Part of Kit 2, Kit3)...........................(2)....12530707
8. PISTON, RR BRK CLPR (Part of Kit2).....................................(2)....1 2453509
9. Cap, RR BRK CLPR Bleeder valve (Part of Kit 2)................................NPN
10. VALVE, RR BRK CLPR Bleeder Valve (Part of Kit 2).......................(2)....14071826
11. SPRING, RR BRK ANTI/RATTLE (Part of Kit1, Kit2)...............................NPN
12. BOOT, RR BRK CLPR Guide Pin (Part of Kit3)..............................(4)...12530703
13. PIN, RR BRK CLPR GDE............................................... .....(4)...18026161
14. BOLT, RR BRK CLPR (Part of Kit1, Kit2, Kit3)............................(4)...14067559
Kit1 PAD KIT, RR BRK (includes 2-4,11,14)
98-99 (J65)............................................. ..................12454972
98-99................................................ .....................18039835
00 (J65) 1st design, use for VINS prior to 2G1FP22K6Y2100381).............18038575
00 (J65) 2nd design, use for VINS after 2G1FP22K6Y2100381)................12454972
01-02 (J65)............................................. ..................12454972
Kit2 CALIPER, RR BRK (includes 5-11, 14)
98-02 (J65)............................................. ............(LH)..12455127
98-02 (J65)............................................. ............(RH)..12455128
Kit3 REPAIR KIT, RR BRK CLPR HYD (includes 6, 7, 12, 14).....................(2)..12530687