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Please Read am posting this for a friend. And it may disappoint some of you because it did me when I heard this. My buddy bought some weld in sfc's and took them to a "midas" type place to have them welded in. I guess he was sitting in the lounge (if it was me I would've been standing beside my car the whole time) and he got up to check the progress on his car and they had just finished it up. Now the car was on an alignment rack, so the suspension was loaded, but when he went out there the front was lifted a little and he asked the guy about it and he said that he didn't weld with the front raised. So anyways, now to make a long story short the car does not feel right at all when you are cornering fast. If you drive down the road and turn real fast from side to side (kinda like nascar guys do) the car doesn't feel predictable at all and it almost feels like the body wants to roll a lot, and it's almost scary taking any type of corner at high speed- the car doesn't feel stable. I am positive this is from incorrect welding (with the front raised) but my real question is do you think it has bent anything? Because I guess it's been like this for a month or two and he hasn't said anything. I haven't been under it to check anything, but the doors still shut as true as a brand new car- if thats an indication of anything..... I know this problem should be corrected soon, but he works a lot and I just wanted to know yours guys' thoughts. Thanks a lot.
P.S.- they are UMI boxed subframed connectors
P.S.- they are UMI boxed subframed connectors
I'd tell him not to worry about it. I doubt it's that much of a problem as long as they lifted the front evenly. I would be surprised if the handling has really been compromised - he's probably just overly sensitive to how the car handles after seeing them doing it that way. Over reacting. Like you say, the doors aren't binding or anything like that. Tell him to get some Konis, then go out and try warming up the tires NASCAR style; he will be impressed!
Uh OH!
Actually I posted about my SFC's being a waste of money. But then I got into a nascar type get the hell out of this traffic **** fit and was swerving in and out of lanes at higher than xx mph speeds and it felt like it was on rails.
I still have dash squeaks rattles worse than before, but it's stiff.
Actually I posted about my SFC's being a waste of money. But then I got into a nascar type get the hell out of this traffic **** fit and was swerving in and out of lanes at higher than xx mph speeds and it felt like it was on rails.
I still have dash squeaks rattles worse than before, but it's stiff.
Well I drove the car myself and it does not feel like its on rails at all. Like I said it almost feels like it has a LOT of body roll, but its kind of hard to explain. And I took it on the freeway and if you take a pretty sharp corner that has a lower speed limit and you go a little faster, when you feel like your normally "on the edge" it now feels like your "over the edge"- it feels like your about ready to lose control of the car.
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Originally Posted by jxaxsxoxn
Uh OH!
Actually I posted about my SFC's being a waste of money. But then I got into a nascar type get the hell out of this traffic **** fit and was swerving in and out of lanes at higher than xx mph speeds and it felt like it was on rails.
I still have dash squeaks rattles worse than before, but it's stiff.
Actually I posted about my SFC's being a waste of money. But then I got into a nascar type get the hell out of this traffic **** fit and was swerving in and out of lanes at higher than xx mph speeds and it felt like it was on rails.
I still have dash squeaks rattles worse than before, but it's stiff.
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He doesn't really have any important mods. He has CAI, Ignition box, short throw, and a Flowmaster, but nothing else as far as suspension goes, and yes the shocks are original. His car is a 97 too and it has either 55 or 57k on it.
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Sounds to me like your buddy is expecting a "NASCAR" after one mod. Fact of the matter is he is running the streets on old shocks. He stiffened the chassis so now the car won't flex like it should and it's putting added stress on the suspension. Like CAL said, try getting some new shocks and then see how it handle's. One modification will not make a night and day difference but it will be an improvement. It's like if you add a K&N air filter, your not going to shave 3 seconds off your quarter mile time. Follow me?
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I really can't see how the SFCs can result in this feeling, but is it possible that when the front was jacked it was done to the wrong place and bent or damaged the front sway bar, links, or bushings?
Give the entire front sway system (and rear for that matter) a good inspection.
Give the entire front sway system (and rear for that matter) a good inspection.
Originally Posted by Shortstuff4104
Sounds to me like your buddy is expecting a "NASCAR" after one mod. Fact of the matter is he is running the streets on old shocks. He stiffened the chassis so now the car won't flex like it should and it's putting added stress on the suspension. Like CAL said, try getting some new shocks and then see how it handle's. One modification will not make a night and day difference but it will be an improvement. It's like if you add a K&N air filter, your not going to shave 3 seconds off your quarter mile time. Follow me?
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I'll say it again: I'm pretty sure you couldn't feel this symptom as a result of the SFCs being welded in with a torqued chassis. Even if you had a different ride height on one side or the other (such as when a stock car is wedged) it shouldn't do this.
Your sway control (probably the front) has been compromised. Check it out.
Your sway control (probably the front) has been compromised. Check it out.
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Originally Posted by jyeager
I'll say it again: I'm pretty sure you couldn't feel this symptom as a result of the SFCs being welded in with a torqued chassis. Even if you had a different ride height on one side or the other (such as when a stock car is wedged) it shouldn't do this.
Your sway control (probably the front) has been compromised. Check it out.
Your sway control (probably the front) has been compromised. Check it out.
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Now... just a thought here... (it's dangerous when I think), but if he's REALLY freaking out about this... could he not find a shop that can corner weight his car and see how it's sitting in comparison to a stock car and see if anything is majorly tweaked? Just a thought... may not be bright... but every now and again I get a decent brain fart.
Put it on the rack, inspect everything under the car. Look for broken or missing sway bar bolts, shock mounts, and caster bushings. If no problems found, replace the shocks. Trust me, it is not the SFC's causing this. Could even be improper tire inflation or wheel alignment.
Okay guys thanks for all of your help. I'll check out the underneath here soon and look for anything out of the ordinary. I knew I could count on you guys, thanks again. 