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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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Do they just sell the adjustable parts to fit shocks and the springs now? Or do you have to still get the full setup from them? I found this website, and it looks like I can buy the adj. perches for my Koni's and my Bilstiens. Is that true or is there something I'm missing?
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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GC's are sleeves that fit over shocks. If you have good shocks, you need only buy the coil-over kit, not the dampers.

Now, I'll warn you of something here..... you get what you pay for. There are some sites selling for way under what they should be. You can go that way, and you'll likely get the product. Some folks have even taken the spring information I'm pretty free with and bought elsewhere. You can do that to. However, what you can't get for the street-corner sale price is the information to make it all work. Information about ride heights, alignments, shock adjustments (if you have them), what spring rates are best suited for your needs and dampers, as well as assorted other technical help.

I only tell you this as fair warning, because I cannot support product for free. You may not need or want my information and that's fine. But if you do, I really can't help you because I can't keep my business open giving away hard earned knowledge for free.
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
GC's are sleeves that fit over shocks. If you have good shocks, you need only buy the coil-over kit, not the dampers.

Now, I'll warn you of something here..... you get what you pay for. There are some sites selling for way under what they should be. You can go that way, and you'll likely get the product. Some folks have even taken the spring information I'm pretty free with and bought elsewhere. You can do that to. However, what you can't get for the street-corner sale price is the information to make it all work. Information about ride heights, alignments, shock adjustments (if you have them), what spring rates are best suited for your needs and dampers, as well as assorted other technical help.

I only tell you this as fair warning, because I cannot support product for free. You may not need or want my information and that's fine. But if you do, I really can't help you because I can't keep my business open giving away hard earned knowledge for free.
Sam, I didn't know yall carried Ground Control stuff. I've got the Koni SA's up front and the Bilstien HD's in the rear. I'm wanting the ground control setup so I can adjust the height, as the lowness of the pro kit is getting kind of old. I actually will want to get your input for this setup since I'm hoping it will be my LAST setup for this car. I completely understand you not wanting to give info to people that don't buy from you. I'll get in touch with you to talk talk about spring rates n such when I get ready to buy them from ya.
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Yo Sam what is the ideal set up for a Fbody. My SS has the SLP 1LE w/ DA Koni's which is a world of difference from my other car. What can I do to make the SS better?
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Does GC make coil over kits for both front and rear of a 4th gen F body? I thought they made front only.

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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 01:33 AM
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I bought GC's from Strano.
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The rear is actually not a coil-over as it doesn't put the spring over the shock. But rather uses a weight jacker and different spring in the stock location. Still can change rates, ride height, etc. And that's actually easier as the spring is more accessible.
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
The rear is actually not a coil-over as it doesn't put the spring over the shock. But rather uses a weight jacker and different spring in the stock location. Still can change rates, ride height, etc. And that's actually easier as the spring is more accessible.

So how much is the rear setup then if it uses the stock spring location, i'm guessing you don't have to match it to certain shocks like you do the fronts?
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$225 for the rear kit, including the springs. You still need good shocks to handle the spring rates you are using, but they don't fit over the shock so fitment wise you can use them with any shock, but performance wise is still matters.
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I e-mailed a request for a quote for GC and revalves. I hope you can ship to Canada.

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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
$225 for the rear kit, including the springs. You still need good shocks to handle the spring rates you are using, but they don't fit over the shock so fitment wise you can use them with any shock, but performance wise is still matters.
Will my bilstien HD's hold up to the spring rates, atleast for the time being until I can get a set of rear Koni's?
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Originally Posted by FstBlkz28
Will my bilstien HD's hold up to the spring rates, atleast for the time being until I can get a set of rear Koni's?
That depends on the spring rate you opt for. They won't be a good match for the popular 150lb/in spring rates, but will they hold up for the time being? For a few months possibly, for a few years probably not a good idea. And even for a few months I'd avoid pushing the car too much.

My recommendation would be to get the shocks first (the Koni's work just fine with stock springs, and actually provide exceptional handling), then upgrade the springs when the money allows it. Doing it the other way around means driving a mismatched setup for some period of time.
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Originally Posted by FstBlkz28
Will my bilstien HD's hold up to the spring rates, atleast for the time being until I can get a set of rear Koni's?
You have our old Koni/3rd gen Bilstein setup, right? If so, the rear shocks will work with 150 lb springs (I used them to win Nationals in '04 together). If you go higher than that on rate, you'd need to step up.

Of course, as I mentioned it depends on what the rates are whether or not the shocks will work.
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
You have our old Koni/3rd gen Bilstein setup, right? If so, the rear shocks will work with 150 lb springs (I used them to win Nationals in '04 together). If you go higher than that on rate, you'd need to step up.

Of course, as I mentioned it depends on what the rates are whether or not the shocks will work.
Ok ya I think thats the setup I've got. I'll probably call you in the next few weeks to talk them over on the rates and what not and order them. Thanks for the help so far!
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Does GC make coil over kits for both front and rear of a 4th gen F body? I thought they made front only.

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I have front and rears.
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here is the rear.
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here is the rear.
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