Suspension & Brakes Springs | Shocks | Handling | Rotors

SFC worth it?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 30, 2005 | 11:11 PM
  #1  
99 Predator's Avatar
Thread Starter
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 217
Likes: 0
From: Marlboro, NJ
Default SFC worth it?

ive heard a lot of people saying how its one of the first mods that should be done. is it worth it? and since i dont really have many rattles what would be some other advantges?
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2005 | 04:34 AM
  #2  
Foxxtron's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,747
Likes: 0
From: Brisbane, QLD, AUS
Default

Hate to just limit my words here, however the mods are getting annoyed at the multiplication of slightly different threads, so I'll inlclude these so you can decide. It's up to you how you'd read them, but my suggestion would be to read all fo their contents from an objective viewpoint.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/398983-subframe-connectors-2pt-vs-3pt.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/417461-sfc-s-bolt-vs-weld.html

If you get what some of the critics are saying, they're not useless, just depends on what you're doing with the vehicle now and eventually. Now for my 2 cents:

The only thing they will do is to strengthen and/or stiffen up the chassis where they're mounted, not remove/reduce NVH, and not improve handling by a great amount that your Seat-of-the-pants can detect. Most of the "looseness" detected through the Seat-of-the-pants is mainly through lousy shocks. The NVH and/or handling improvements many claim are mostly placebo from what's been stated so far. If you want to get rid of the NVH, first determine where it's coming from, then resolve it by fixing the problem directly. If you have interior rattling, check the interior for loose panels and loose foreign objects. If you have something creaking from underneath, check the bushings and/or mounts all around the vehicle because bushings are wear heavy items.

If you think your handling is like dookie, then resolve it directly by considering a different set of shocks, springs, and/or stabiliser bars, well designed ones I shall add. There are several decent sponsors here, however Sam Strano is very popular for suspension mods for several good reasons. If you perform a search for his name, you'll see what he knows is based on direct knowledge and very good experience.

Yes, every car needs a stiff chassis, however the 4th gen musn't be confused with a bevy of "primitive" designs from the various GM vintages before the 4th Gen camaro arrived. For the mods you listed in your sig, you can do without SFC's for now, however if you decided to upgrade to lots of HP, drag race, purchase a floor mounted torque arm, have a full convertible, or are doing some type of competition where you're constantly having to jack lift one corner of the vehicle, then you might consider a type of SFC that could easily satisfy your need. I have a T-top equipped vehicle and when I had my SFC's installed (several sets bear in mind), it didn't resolve the extremely slight flexing from the T-top panels, so I had to devise a one piece aluminium panel retrofit that can temporarily replaced the T-tops when needed.

Again, I will leave it up to you.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 05:32 PM
  #3  
BULLET99Z28's Avatar
TECH Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 475
Likes: 0
From: Cedar Rapids,IA
Default

I felt a differnce in the car as soon as they were welded in, tighter, and hookep up a little better, but foxxton is right,they aren't bandaids, or won't replace a good set of sway bars,shocks,etc.$th gens are much better, but could be stiffer-I notice them more over speedbumps and large bumps in the road- the car is just more solid feeling

Last edited by BULLET99Z28; Jan 1, 2006 at 05:38 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 05:51 PM
  #4  
Bo White's Avatar
TECH Addict
20 Year Member
iTrader: (59)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,357
Likes: 0
From: Vance, Alabama
Default

This is my opinion and some opinions of others:
www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=423517
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 06:09 PM
  #5  
H8 LUZN's Avatar
TECH Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 400
Likes: 0
From: Down Under
Default

I have em.. but they are only really good for peace of mind... (i.e. hopefully eliminate creases in body panels and reduce squeaks)

I have them, do i expect so see performance gains.. no

A different set of tires would have a far greater impact on handling than SFC's... this is more of an insurance/sleep-at-night mod.

I'll be the first one to call BS when they say their car actually handles better, or increased cornering G's. do you think SFC's modified the contact patch in any way, what % stiffer is the chassis?

Torsional stiffness of the chassis only has to be a Certain % above the roll stiffness of the suspension and the F-bodies are above that from the factory. However, with stiffer springs/roll bars etc.. the roll stiffness went up and therefore the required stifness of the chassis likewise has gone up (its not really required, but basically the point where the chassis has minimal impact on suspension geometry)

All i can say about this, is that "point of diminsihing returns" comes to mind.

but then again.. i have them.. so do what you want.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:47 PM
  #6  
Quickbird's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Default agree and disagree

Looking at Kenney Brown double diamond SFC i see the possibility of some benifit. But give your head a slap for me if you bought a 5 foot piece of pipe with a couple of tabs welded on for about $120.00 and you think they will do much of anything. You get what you pay for.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:21 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE