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Old 02-24-2006 | 11:39 AM
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So using the lower perch with stock springs is safe?

In what situation is it not recommended?

And you can do this on all 4 corners?
Old 02-24-2006 | 11:49 AM
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Thats what it is designed for, using with the stock springs. If you had lowering springs you would want to use the upper perch. As for the rear you need to either do the heater hose mod (remove the spring retainer) or install new lowering springs.
Old 02-24-2006 | 12:05 PM
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J. Brrown.... I have the fronts set at 4 sweeps from full firm.

Zachwhite0..... If you go +1 and decrease your tire profile you shouldn't have a problem when lowering the car. I recommend taking baby steps when changing suspension components. There is no extreme IMO when it comes to F-body set ups. Small changes with good quality parts can make the world of difference.
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Absolutely safe... Not recommended if you have lowering springs (don't do it).
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Old 02-24-2006 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by May Spin
J. Brrown.... I have the fronts set at 4 sweeps from full firm.
so you started at the full firm and back 4 sweeps? when you say sweeps you mean four 1/4 turns with the pin (1 full turn), or you mean four full turns?
Old 02-24-2006 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by J. Brown
so you started at the full firm and back 4 sweeps? when you say sweeps you mean four 1/4 turns with the pin (1 full turn), or you mean four full turns?
No.... 1/4 turn = 1 sweep.... I think there is 7-8 sweeps total.
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sorry i may sound like an idiot here but what is the perch and it doesnt lower the car at all does it? right now i have the eibach pro-kit with some CHEAP shocks and im going to be replacing all of my suspension with new springs and shocks, and my roads around here are not the smoothest so im worried if i go with the revlaves are they gonna blow out with alot of stress or start bottoming out?
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Sam - I'm a dummy, spell it out for me. I have a 98 SS DMS springs, stock shocks. I don't drive the car often but would like nice handling with best ride possible. what shock do I want? I don't want to spend a ton but I do think quality is worth paying for.
Old 03-01-2006 | 01:43 PM
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You can never, ever go wrong with Koni's. They are just that good, have that broad of adjustment range, do little things so much better than the cheapy adjustables.... So they aren't "wrong". Does that make them "right" for you? That's the issue.

Does the cost bother you? Do you understand what you get for the extra cost? Would you adjust them? (and you can't decide that if you don't know how it works, why you might.)

Obviously you want good damping control. If you answered the above this way: Yes, No and you you don't care, and No. Then I have to say that it's pretty clear that Revalved Bilstein's are the better choice. If you answered the above with "maybes" or are the type of person who more than... twice bought something cheaper and later realized that you messed up... then Koni's are the smarter choice.

Best ride possible. Well, being that "ride" and "handling" are two things that are very, very personal... I think having a damper you can change to best suit you would be the better long term decision.

Not my job to tell you what you HAVE to do. Only to lay down the options, and make sure you don't SCREW IT UP. I won't let you mess up royally. I'll warn, explain, even beg sometimes so that you don't do something bad. But there are various levels of "right". I see my job as interpreting to some degree and consulting on what's "right". But in the end it's always your decision.
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Originally Posted by rjkZ28
sorry i may sound like an idiot here but what is the perch and it doesnt lower the car at all does it? right now i have the eibach pro-kit with some CHEAP shocks and im going to be replacing all of my suspension with new springs and shocks, and my roads around here are not the smoothest so im worried if i go with the revlaves are they gonna blow out with alot of stress or start bottoming out?
It can lower the front of the car with Koni's. Koni's have two perch locations upper being factory location and lower which is about 3/4" lower than stock.

(Correct me if I am wrong Sam)
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you are correct sir.... and the lower perch is NOT to be used with lowering springs.
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I have this set up and its GREAT. Weather they are meant to be together or not it handles well and seems tight to me. I dont take mine to the track or any of that but for my 2 cents the two behave nicely together.
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All relative.... http://www.bilstein.com/302passengercars.pdf
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