My C5 brake conversion
Originally Posted by BigD
No just the C5 rear calipers/pads are bolt on, the rear rotors aren't.I see my first post I wasn't specific, sorry.
Fox Lake? Ask her if she's been to Blarney's Island.
Fox Lake? Ask her if she's been to Blarney's Island.
Will do, I need to call her this week anyways...good excuse!
Originally Posted by lo_jack
Big D you have any probs with the front rear balance of the braking now, or are you happy with the balance of the car still?
Originally Posted by BigD
No notice in brake bias front to rear.< ABS might take of this anyhow???? This conversion has no minus's so far. HTH's
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Oh you did for get to mention one thing D - there are a ton more rotors for C5, and you can get them cheaper than fbody rotors, even though they are vented.
I found a place as low as 16$ a piece for fronts. At that price, even if they crap out in 2 months, who cares!
And yes it does help - I may try to get mine on this weekend.
I found a place as low as 16$ a piece for fronts. At that price, even if they crap out in 2 months, who cares!
And yes it does help - I may try to get mine on this weekend.
I switched over to these as one of my winter mods. I went from the Baer GT+ setup to the Trackbrackets to rid myself of expensive rotors and significant pad taper.
So far after about 10+ track days this year, the Trackbrackets are doing well. Very minimal pad taper (~10-25% of what the Baers had), and the car has 4 days at Summit Point, 2 at Limerock, 3 at Watkins Glen on the current set of HT-10s and they only seem to be a little less than half worn!---And the car is hauling at Summit....didn't get passed by a single car and passed almost every instructor out there at least once (was running in the instructor group). For those who don't know the car, its about 2900 lbs with ~475hp. Wish I had gone right to the trackbrackets years ago instead of spending $440 for replacement rotors and throwing away half worn sets of pads due to the taper from the Baer brackets.
So far after about 10+ track days this year, the Trackbrackets are doing well. Very minimal pad taper (~10-25% of what the Baers had), and the car has 4 days at Summit Point, 2 at Limerock, 3 at Watkins Glen on the current set of HT-10s and they only seem to be a little less than half worn!---And the car is hauling at Summit....didn't get passed by a single car and passed almost every instructor out there at least once
(was running in the instructor group). For those who don't know the car, its about 2900 lbs with ~475hp. Wish I had gone right to the trackbrackets years ago instead of spending $440 for replacement rotors and throwing away half worn sets of pads due to the taper from the Baer brackets. LS1 Tech Stories
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I have a question...
when looking at the C5 and F-body rotors... I know that the C5 is a larger rotor.. BUT it looks like the Bite surface area of the pad's are exactly the same... what would be the benifit of changing to C5 when they have the same bite surface area of the Fody???
when looking at the C5 and F-body rotors... I know that the C5 is a larger rotor.. BUT it looks like the Bite surface area of the pad's are exactly the same... what would be the benifit of changing to C5 when they have the same bite surface area of the Fody???
Originally Posted by GR33N GoblinM6
I have a question...
when looking at the C5 and F-body rotors... I know that the C5 is a larger rotor.. BUT it looks like the Bite surface area of the pad's are exactly the same... what would be the benifit of changing to C5 when they have the same bite surface area of the Fody???
when looking at the C5 and F-body rotors... I know that the C5 is a larger rotor.. BUT it looks like the Bite surface area of the pad's are exactly the same... what would be the benifit of changing to C5 when they have the same bite surface area of the Fody???
Originally Posted by supersteve7
how much did this setup cost ya if you dont mind me asking???
Prices vary a lot! Below is what I remember the average price was for the stuff when I was looking to buy. Most of the parts can be found used which will save a ton of money. Here is a rough "guesstimate" of what it would cost though.
Front:
Pair of front brake calipers: $50-$100 < used
Pair of front C5 adapter brackets: $250 (steering knucle to abutment bracket)
Pair of C5 abutment brackets: $80 (C5 adapter bracket to calipers)
Pair of std. C5 front rotors: $70
Front C5 brake pads: $80
Pair C5 front brake hoses: $50
Caliper hardware kits per caliper: $25 (anti rattle clips/shims, pins, pin boots and bolts)
Other:
Pair of rear brake calipers: $50< used
Rear brake pads: $50
Front and rear stainless brake line kit: $100
PFC front rotor kit: $600 ???????
Caliper rebuild kits per caliper: $15
Some sponsors on tech sell a complete ready to bolt on kit. UMI is one, not sure if there are any others?
You also have to cut your steering knuckles (cut one brake caliper mounting ear off) to get the adapter brackets to work. I bought used knuckles for $60 a pair.
HTH Darrin
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Originally Posted by BigD
The C5 calipers actually have smaller pistons than the F-bodys. Smaller caliper pistons mean less clamping force for same pedal pressure (all other things being the same). The C5's are a better casting (pressure) over the F-body's. The better casting of the C5 along with the larger diameter of the rotor of the C5 I feel make up for the piston difference. This is open for debate though, some say the gain of C5 front brakes is marginal.
Originally Posted by BigD
Some sponsors on tech sell a complete ready to bolt on kit. UMI is one, not sure if there are any others?
http://www.umiperformance.com/c5conv.aspx
Originally Posted by BigD
No just the C5 rear calipers/pads are bolt on, the rear rotors aren't.I see my first post I wasn't specific, sorry.
Fox Lake? Ask her if she's been to Blarney's Island.
Fox Lake? Ask her if she's been to Blarney's Island.
Darren
Last edited by SS1875; Aug 14, 2006 at 04:08 PM.
Originally Posted by trackbird
The larger rotor is balanced out by the slightly smaller pistons on the C5 calipers. So, the overall brake bias will remain the same (just like you thought it did). That's why I don't suggest Corvette calipers on LS1 rotors (without the conversion to the C5 rotors). It's not a huge change, but it will shift the bias to the rear (LS1 cars already have a good bit of rear bias to begin with).
I am looking at upgrading and put new calipers on last year. I was thinking of going with hawk hps pads, c5 rotors, my ls1 calipers with adapter brackets.
Will this adversely affect my brake bias??
Thanks!
Originally Posted by fasteddyss
Trackbird, based on this would you not recommend using ls1 calipers with a c5 conversion??
I am looking at upgrading and put new calipers on last year. I was thinking of going with hawk hps pads, c5 rotors, my ls1 calipers with adapter brackets.
Will this adversely affect my brake bias??
Thanks!
I am looking at upgrading and put new calipers on last year. I was thinking of going with hawk hps pads, c5 rotors, my ls1 calipers with adapter brackets.
Will this adversely affect my brake bias??
Thanks!
Originally Posted by SS1875
Talked to my sister...she's been there...guess the next time I'm up there I will have to check it out, sounds interesting/fun.
Darren
Darren