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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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gotta drop it. I def say stay around the inch mark though.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Drop it, you won't regret it. I went with the BMRs on mine and its perfect.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Guz
It does not look to bad. It's hard to tell because your car is black and the tires tend to blend in. If you want you could always do the Koni's and stock spring set up. Sometimes referenced as the front perch or heater hose mod. I believe it lowers the car about 3/4". Try a search for the heater hose or lower front perch.

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Guys,

I just finished doing the above and I'm very happy! I had done the front Konis and lower perch a few days ago and just a couple of hours ago did the rear Konis and heater hose.....all with stock springs. I couldn't believe what a big difference the new shocks made. I should say that I did also get new tires (Yokohama AVS ES-100) Anyway, the car feels very comfy,the same as before, if not better; handling is much more precise and the car stays flatter while braking. Also, it is noticeably lower....not to high, not too low. Very nice stance, and IMO the way it should've came from the factory.
The stock rear shocks were incredibly soft and/or worn out, in less than 40k miles. Before the Konis, it was very easy to push the rear end up and down....it was very bouncy. Now it's almost impossible....proof the Konis are controlling rebound and compression much beter.
BTW, I adjusted the front and rear 2 clicks FROM full soft and it seems it's just perfect. I didn't want to give up comfort, and it now seems the car is more comfortable, yet very firm.
Something else, I was shocked at how much the front upper control arms had rusted in only 4 years. I'm not talking about light surface rust.....this was the thick, scaly rust that makes holes in metal. There is a pocket on the top side that seems to collect water, thus the heavy rusting. Maybe a new set of uppers are in the future.

Bottom line: I'm very glad I listened to Sam Strano Jr. Although he did rough me up a bit, it seems he really knows suspension set-ups. He told me with the Konis my car would handle like a BMW (one of the best handling cars in the world) and it does. Comfy, yet firm! I am very satisfied and highly recommend Sam for suspension needs AND advice.

My next move is a new set of sway bars. The rear sway bar on the Z28 is clearly a wimp.

Thanks Sam

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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by UsaTraveler
I did just notice that you live in Pa. When I was up there on the Power Tour I noticed your roads are a little rough. Even on the interstate the bumps were annoying. I don't have a problem driving mine around FL, but you may want to think about it if you live on crappy roads.
Did you stop to think it's because you have springs that are very low and pretty much put you on yoru bumpstops at all times, and also don't seem to have any shocks either? (at least not in your sig)

Shocks are spring dampers. Change you springs, you better have a shock that can deal with the new springs and do it properly.

Other things I notice in this thread:

There are no 1" Eibach springs, they are all 1.25" and more.

Hotchkis are pretty good, B+G springs are not anywhere near the top of my list (and yes they are a brand I can sell along with Eibach, Hotchkis, and others). Also, Byunspeed made no mention of dampers, or the fact that an adjustable PHB is something you really should have when lowering a car more than about 1/2" because the lowering drops the body mount vs. the axle mount and effectively shortens the PHB, shifting your axle off center.

The Koni's with the stock springs is the best way to drop the car just a little, AND you get a hugely improved car in *both* ride and handling. Yes, Koni's are pricey, but no more than some springs, an adjustable PHB and even half-*** passable shocks. Add proper shocks and the package is often MORE than Koni's.
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Hey guys,


Just noticed a little while ago that the front passenger strut isn't quite centered within the spring. It's not necessarily leaning against the spring, but it is ovious the shock is leaning towards the front of the car. Should I be concerned? Sam?

Btw, no I didn't throw away any "extra" parts!
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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No pics, but I can take some tomorrow. I think it would be hard to notice though. I don't want to give the impression the thing is out of whack. When viewed from the side, the driver side strut seems a little tilted towards the front of the car. I did an aligment after getting the new tires and the car handles very well.....the steering wheel is dead center; and it stays there. No abnormal noise either.
Maybe it's the spring that's tilted backwards. Maybe the rubber isolators rotated a bit while installing the strut.

Also, I appreciate very much your help with selecting shocks for my car. I love this combo! Stand-by for new sway bars!!

Rick
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Last_Z
Bottom line: I'm very glad I listened to Sam Strano Jr. Although he did rough me up a bit, it seems he really knows suspension set-ups. He told me with the Konis my car would handle like a BMW (one of the best handling cars in the world) and it does. Comfy, yet firm! I am very satisfied and highly recommend Sam for suspension needs AND advice.

My next move is a new set of sway bars. The rear sway bar on the Z28 is clearly a wimp.

Thanks Sam

Ricardo Remesal
Really don't look to rough anyone up, but sometimes I have to to deliver the message. I don't recall the circumstances of that conversation but I'll go out on a limb and say that Ricardo had wanted some parts that he really didn't know if/how they'd help, or if they'd even help at all. I say that simply given that's what 75% of my day consists of, educating or re-educating folks about what they've learned previously or just gathered. A shocking amout of information that's given can be very, very wrong.

So, I'm sorry if I was harsh. But I want you guys to get what you need. It would make my life a lot easier to just do what most every other parts place does and sell what the customer just asked for and leave it at that. It's called "sell them they want--*THEN* sell them what they need". I prefer to sell you what you need, once and be done with it. You're happier, and have a better working car.
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