So basically all panhards are the same?
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Friendswood TX
So basically all panhards are the same? I mean really, does it matter from brand to brand? i am thinking about the Billingsly one. b/c its spherical and its double adjustible so i dont have to take it off the car to adjust it... makes life easier. then i looked into it and so does the BMR unit. it has spherical ends along w/ the ability to adjust it on the car. so will there be a noticible increase of road noise w/ spherical ends? i know w/ LCAs you can tell but what about the panhard?
Drew
Drew
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? Now that I think about it, all panhards really are the same. Except for the ends thought, some like to use cheap ends some like to use good ends. You just gotta do research on em to make sure you dont get screwed. The rod ends on a APHR will make it a lil louder, but not like you think. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? They are all the same in design. As has been said though, some MAY use better rod ends than others so check that out. Any of the big companies (BMR, LG, etc....) use good parts.
Chris
Chris
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Friendswood TX
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001CamaroGuy:
<strong> They are all the same in design. As has been said though, some MAY use better rod ends than others so check that out. Any of the big companies (BMR, LG, etc....) use good parts.
Chris </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">See thats what i was thinking. Has anyone noticed a change in road noise w/ rod ends? either way i think ill get the spherical ends. thanks guys
Drew
<strong> They are all the same in design. As has been said though, some MAY use better rod ends than others so check that out. Any of the big companies (BMR, LG, etc....) use good parts.
Chris </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">See thats what i was thinking. Has anyone noticed a change in road noise w/ rod ends? either way i think ill get the spherical ends. thanks guys
Drew
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? If you are weight conscious, that is something that makes them different as well. The G2 and Billingsley panhards should be the lightest out there.
Steve
Steve
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001CamaroGuy:
<strong> If you keep the mounting bolts tight, you won't really receave any more noise. Its when they are loose and can rattle over bumps. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not entirely true ...
I had a BMR APHB with rod ends. As the diff moved up and down, the rod itself would twist back and forth, hitting the body mount with the rod end housing.
<strong> If you keep the mounting bolts tight, you won't really receave any more noise. Its when they are loose and can rattle over bumps. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not entirely true ...
I had a BMR APHB with rod ends. As the diff moved up and down, the rod itself would twist back and forth, hitting the body mount with the rod end housing.
Trending Topics
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? My BMR panhard rod with rod ends seems to be hitting my upper panhard rod, it has since it was first installed (and the car was almost brand new (under 1500 miles). It dosen't make much noise, but it will clang and bang on hard bumps....but it's worth it. Good luck.
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP
Verdad Gallardo
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes
Verdad Gallardo
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power
Verdad Gallardo
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die
Verdad Gallardo Re: So basically all panhards are the same? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Top Fuel:
<strong> If you are weight conscious, that is something that makes them different as well. The G2 and Billingsley panhards should be the lightest out there.
Steve </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is if they are aluminum.....I have the Z Rated Motorsports aluminum one and it is REALLY light.
<strong> If you are weight conscious, that is something that makes them different as well. The G2 and Billingsley panhards should be the lightest out there.
Steve </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is if they are aluminum.....I have the Z Rated Motorsports aluminum one and it is REALLY light.
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001CamaroGuy:
<strong> If you keep the mounting bolts tight, you won't really receave any more noise. Its when they are loose and can rattle over bumps. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not entirely true ...
I had a BMR APHB with rod ends. As the diff moved up and down, the rod itself would twist back and forth, hitting the body mount with the rod end housing. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I get what your saying...thats like what my LCAs did (also have double rod ends on them). What I did to get rid of that was turn the rod ends out off alighnment (so they are not stright up and down). This prevents them from being able to rotate very much and got rid of all the clicking.
Chris
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001CamaroGuy:
<strong> If you keep the mounting bolts tight, you won't really receave any more noise. Its when they are loose and can rattle over bumps. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not entirely true ...
I had a BMR APHB with rod ends. As the diff moved up and down, the rod itself would twist back and forth, hitting the body mount with the rod end housing. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I get what your saying...thats like what my LCAs did (also have double rod ends on them). What I did to get rid of that was turn the rod ends out off alighnment (so they are not stright up and down). This prevents them from being able to rotate very much and got rid of all the clicking.
Chris
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001CamaroGuy:
<strong> They are all the same in design. As has been said though, some MAY use better rod ends than others so check that out. Any of the big companies (BMR, LG, etc....) use good parts.
Chris </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">FYI...BMR does NOT use the same joints as LG. BMR's are cheap and noisy; LG's uses high quality helm joints. no comparision
<strong> They are all the same in design. As has been said though, some MAY use better rod ends than others so check that out. Any of the big companies (BMR, LG, etc....) use good parts.
Chris </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">FYI...BMR does NOT use the same joints as LG. BMR's are cheap and noisy; LG's uses high quality helm joints. no comparision
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2MCHPWR:
FYI...BMR does NOT use the same joints as LG. BMR's are cheap and noisy; LG's uses high quality helm joints. no comparision [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But my LCAs don't make any noise and they have been on the car for some 10,000 miles. I'm not saying the BMRs are better (or even as good as) than the LGs, I'm just saying they don't seem too bad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Chris
FYI...BMR does NOT use the same joints as LG. BMR's are cheap and noisy; LG's uses high quality helm joints. no comparision [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But my LCAs don't make any noise and they have been on the car for some 10,000 miles. I'm not saying the BMRs are better (or even as good as) than the LGs, I'm just saying they don't seem too bad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Chris
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001CamaroGuy:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001CamaroGuy:
<strong> If you keep the mounting bolts tight, you won't really receave any more noise. Its when they are loose and can rattle over bumps. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not entirely true ...
I had a BMR APHB with rod ends. As the diff moved up and down, the rod itself would twist back and forth, hitting the body mount with the rod end housing. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I get what your saying...thats like what my LCAs did (also have double rod ends on them). What I did to get rid of that was turn the rod ends out off alighnment (so they are not stright up and down). This prevents them from being able to rotate very much and got rid of all the clicking.
Chris </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wouldn't that also cause bind in one direction. You basically prevent the rod from moving in the direction you turn it. Kinda defeats the purpose of a rod end, might as well get poly.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mitchntx:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2001CamaroGuy:
<strong> If you keep the mounting bolts tight, you won't really receave any more noise. Its when they are loose and can rattle over bumps. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not entirely true ...
I had a BMR APHB with rod ends. As the diff moved up and down, the rod itself would twist back and forth, hitting the body mount with the rod end housing. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I get what your saying...thats like what my LCAs did (also have double rod ends on them). What I did to get rid of that was turn the rod ends out off alighnment (so they are not stright up and down). This prevents them from being able to rotate very much and got rid of all the clicking.
Chris </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wouldn't that also cause bind in one direction. You basically prevent the rod from moving in the direction you turn it. Kinda defeats the purpose of a rod end, might as well get poly.
Re: So basically all panhards are the same? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Dom:
<strong> Wouldn't that also cause bind in one direction. You basically prevent the rod from moving in the direction you turn it. Kinda defeats the purpose of a rod end, might as well get poly. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It "could" bind if it moves to much laterally (left and right), but the rear-end is only supposed to move vertically (up and down). If it moves in the lateral, the tires will crash into the fender and bad things will happen there so its a direction of travel that is not needed. Even with the rod ends "locked over", it still gets a good bit of lateral movement (far more than you want.....once again....rear-end moves sideways.....BAD!!!).
later <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Chris
<strong> Wouldn't that also cause bind in one direction. You basically prevent the rod from moving in the direction you turn it. Kinda defeats the purpose of a rod end, might as well get poly. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It "could" bind if it moves to much laterally (left and right), but the rear-end is only supposed to move vertically (up and down). If it moves in the lateral, the tires will crash into the fender and bad things will happen there so its a direction of travel that is not needed. Even with the rod ends "locked over", it still gets a good bit of lateral movement (far more than you want.....once again....rear-end moves sideways.....BAD!!!).
later <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Chris