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Old May 27, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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ive heard that tubular lcas and the relocation brackets will make a hugh difference on take off and wheel hop. i can understand y the lcas would but how does relocating them really help. thought they were just for lowering the car.
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Old May 27, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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It puts the LCA's at a different angle which in turn causes more traction to be put to the ground
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thanx for the reply. i know that the lcas will get of the wheel hope thats y i was wondering how big of a difference the brackets would make.
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I guess think of it like holding your arm straight out in front of you and trying to push down on something or taking your arm at your side and trying to push down on something.....you can put more force pushing at a higher angle
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i see what u are sayin, thanx for the help. i am goin to get those whenever i get the money together for sure. never can have to much traction and wheel hop is a killer
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Old May 27, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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what kind you gonna get?
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probably umi. do you have them...
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Old May 27, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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I don't but I helped my buddy put them on his and they rock! I'm just got my car this past Tuesday but that is one of the first things I will be buying.
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what type did ur buddy put on. u goin to put the same brand as he is.
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He has BMR and yes I plan on using the same
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Old May 28, 2007 | 01:54 AM
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well i appreciate the convo. you have made up my mind bout getting them for sure.
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Originally Posted by whitesmoke00
ive heard that tubular lcas and the relocation brackets will make a hugh difference on take off and wheel hop. i can understand y the lcas would but how does relocating them really help. thought they were just for lowering the car.
Hello,

The relocation brackets were original designed for a lowered car, they correct the control arm angle once the vehicle is lowered and put the instant center back into the correct place. However on a non-lowered car they will also work well. They move the instant center back by lowering the rear of the control arm. They are pretty much a lift bar but re-designed and re-named. They help to plant the tires harder into the ground on a launch. I highly recommend them on virtually any car looking for improved traction, esp. if the vehicle is a low to mid Horse-power car.

If I can help anymore please ask and I am glad too. Thank you!
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The combination of brackets and LCA elimanted my wheel hop. Not to hijack, but I have some BMR brackets for my 10-bolt I need to sell. I just stripped them and repainted, PM me if you want details. I will be purchasing a 9" and UMI brackets.

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The combination of brackets and LCA elimanted my wheel hop. Not to hijack, but I have some BMR brackets for my 10-bolt I need to sell. I just stripped them and repainted, PM me if you want details. I will be purchasing a 9" and UMI brackets.

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Instead of selling the brackets, if you just cut of the arm that goes to the shock mount they will work perfect on the new 9". Just locate them properly and weld them on.

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I just got a lot of my suspension from BMR and i bought some relocation brackets. I will be installing them tonight. I was going to go with the UMI stuff but ive had nothing but great experience dealing with tiffany and when ever i needed tech help lee was there for me.

Ive seen the relocation brackets on other cars and i highly reccomend them

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Does anyone have a good picture of where the relocation brackets go?
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Originally Posted by Datzneat
Does anyone have a good picture of where the relocation brackets go?
go to LS1howto.com or into the sticky and its got a whole walkthrough, if you look at my thread just a few down it shows several sites others gave me, i just installed my LCAs and noticed a huge difference honestly, but im trying to figure out what to do with the brake lines on the relocation brackets sence new ones dont have a way of supporting the lines...so i have the brackets just sitting around for now
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theres pictures on UMI and a video that takes you through the UMI shop. I'm not being biased cause i also have BMR SFC but i had just installed the UMI PHB and LCA W/ bolt in relocation brackets and im very happy with them.
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Originally Posted by Datzneat
Does anyone have a good picture of where the relocation brackets go?
Hello, We have installation pictures in both the links below-

Weld-In- www.umiperformance.com/2010

Bolt-In- www.umiperformance.com/2012

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i threw together a little diagram in MS Paint to illustrate how LCA relocation brackets help.....hope it's useful for you and others. it's not real pretty, but hopefully you'll get the idea.

the left side is the front of the car and the right side is the rear....pretend you're looking at the passenger's side of the car as it would appear when standing on the driver's side, if the car were cut in half length-wise

as the wheels turn forward on launch, the rear end will naturally try to raise, so the more downward angle you have (within reason) on the LCA's, the less it will be able to do so. this translates into more "weight" being placed on the rear wheels, improving the amount of "bite" they have.

as you can see in the 3rd pic (lowered without brackets), the LCA's will be somewhere around either perfectly level, or at an upward angle, going in the opposite direction from what they should be (this all depends on the amount of drop...the more it's dropped, the more of an upward angle it will have). in this configuration, the rear end will be able to raise more when launching, which means the tires won't "bite" as well, which causes the whole rear to bounce around (wheelhop) instead of being firmly planted to the ground:

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