Big enough?
Solid 32 vs. Hollow 35 gains you about 10 pounds. I really don't much get it. I think you think the Chrome-Moly in this case is some kind of magic. It's not. But if you want to spend the same kind of money on a heavier, softer front bar, you can...... These cars love front big front bars, I can't think of anyone who's gone back to a smaller one from a bigger one because it wasn't a big change.
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
I have my strano bar sitting here and I just put it on scale, ~15lbs. Im probably going to install it today after work, Ill let you know how much rougher the ride is after.
Sam, can you verify the correctness of the weight in JD_AMG's statement? Not doubting him ... just not sure how accurate his scales are. I think I'll return the bar I just ordered (or sell it and take the loss) and order yours.
There was a guy's thread I was reading where he said he went from a 32mm solid front bar to a 35mm hollow bar and then changed it back because the 35mm bar was way too stiff for his setup. As stated, i think i'll buy your 35mm bar though ... 1 negative and 12 positive comments leads me back your way, Sam. I'll be ordering your 35mm front sway bar tonight or tomorrow. With the weight advantage, it only makes sense on the street. It will still come off before dragging the car. Thanks for your help and for all the input from everyone, as well.
Originally Posted by JEB99TA
How much does the hollow 35mm bar weigh? With a 35mm size and 6mm wall thickness, it can't be much lighter than the solid 32mm chrome moly bar IMO (27 lbs), which is lighter than the stock hollow bar from the factory. Isn't that the same weight as the 35mm Strano hollow bar? Looking at some level of comfort here, as well. As I had stated, I just wanted a little something more than the stock bar ... especially after reading some posts here that the 35mm bar is waaaaay too stiff for a daily driven mostly car (from people who had a 35mm hollow bar and changed because it was too stiff).
The HD Bilstein's are already pretty stiff and the subframes have me launching pretty solid. I want a certain level of comfort as a daily driver, since it will only see the dragstrip 2-3 times per year. For my personal needs, I believe the 32mm solid chrome moly bar will be perfect. They're not expensive, so, I just ordered one for the front. I'll be doing the Strano bar for the rear for sure. If the 32mm bar feels good up front, then, that's what I'll ... if not, I'll order the hollow Strano bar. Besides, when I go to the track, I'm taking the front sway bar off, anyway. Thanks for taking the time to reply to everyone who did. I'm open for more comments.
The HD Bilstein's are already pretty stiff and the subframes have me launching pretty solid. I want a certain level of comfort as a daily driver, since it will only see the dragstrip 2-3 times per year. For my personal needs, I believe the 32mm solid chrome moly bar will be perfect. They're not expensive, so, I just ordered one for the front. I'll be doing the Strano bar for the rear for sure. If the 32mm bar feels good up front, then, that's what I'll ... if not, I'll order the hollow Strano bar. Besides, when I go to the track, I'm taking the front sway bar off, anyway. Thanks for taking the time to reply to everyone who did. I'm open for more comments.
What hurt daily driveability was my heads/cam/clutch/headers/noise
..... you shouldn't be worried about a 35mm front bar hurting daily drive quality.
Originally Posted by JEB99TA
Sam, can you verify the correctness of the weight in JD_AMG's statement? Not doubting him ... just not sure how accurate his scales are. I think I'll return the bar I just ordered (or sell it and take the loss) and order yours.
There was a guy's thread I was reading where he said he went from a 32mm solid front bar to a 35mm hollow bar and then changed it back because the 35mm bar was way too stiff for his setup. As stated, i think i'll buy your 35mm bar though ... 1 negative and 12 positive comments leads me back your way, Sam. I'll be ordering your 35mm front sway bar tonight or tomorrow. With the weight advantage, it only makes sense on the street. It will still come off before dragging the car. Thanks for your help and for all the input from everyone, as well.
There was a guy's thread I was reading where he said he went from a 32mm solid front bar to a 35mm hollow bar and then changed it back because the 35mm bar was way too stiff for his setup. As stated, i think i'll buy your 35mm bar though ... 1 negative and 12 positive comments leads me back your way, Sam. I'll be ordering your 35mm front sway bar tonight or tomorrow. With the weight advantage, it only makes sense on the street. It will still come off before dragging the car. Thanks for your help and for all the input from everyone, as well.
As for the 1 "negative", that's fine--you can please some of the people all the time or all of the people some of the time. I'd be interested in the details as far as the use, what springs, and what the acutal rational for change back would be because it's quite odd to hear that.
None the less, the stock front bar on the car is hollow. Any solid bar is adding a lot of mass, and if you get more roll stiffness w/o a lot of added weight for a similar price, I think it's a no-brainer.
Edit: I just caught the line about returning what you already ordered. Looks like subtlez28 called that one.
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Buy the 35, install and love it. You'll be amazed at the difference and wondering why you didn't do this sooner. Sam's 35 hollow bar is pretty light for its size and it's far lighter than the 35mm solid I also had. Either bar works great for daily driving and has minimal impact on the ride quality. I'm not sure where the paranoia is about the big bars and why it's being considered a "race only" part. "Race only" never stops anyone from removing cats and mufflers, adding full race clutches, etc. All of those things really impact your cars driveablilty and have a real impact on how streetable it is (noise, clunks, rattles, stalling and hard to get rolling, etc). The 35mm bars, both solid and hollow) are almost not noticeable as far as ride, but the handling gains are huge. You may just have to trust me (and the rest of us) and buy the larger bar. You'll be glad you did.
Originally Posted by Sam Strano
My front bar, boxed, with the hardware (also in it's own small box) ships @ 20 pounds. For reference a solid 35mm bar, boxed w/hardware is 44 pounds. A solid 32 is in between.
As for the 1 "negative", that's fine--you can please some of the people all the time or all of the people some of the time. I'd be interested in the details as far as the use, what springs, and what the acutal rational for change back would be because it's quite odd to hear that.
None the less, the stock front bar on the car is hollow. Any solid bar is adding a lot of mass, and if you get more roll stiffness w/o a lot of added weight for a similar price, I think it's a no-brainer.
Edit: I just caught the line about returning what you already ordered. Looks like subtlez28 called that one.
As for the 1 "negative", that's fine--you can please some of the people all the time or all of the people some of the time. I'd be interested in the details as far as the use, what springs, and what the acutal rational for change back would be because it's quite odd to hear that.
None the less, the stock front bar on the car is hollow. Any solid bar is adding a lot of mass, and if you get more roll stiffness w/o a lot of added weight for a similar price, I think it's a no-brainer.
Edit: I just caught the line about returning what you already ordered. Looks like subtlez28 called that one.
I can verify that it does I'm very happy with the effect my Strano 35mm bar had on the car. I already had a 21mm rear bar, so it balanced things out perfectly. Didn't affect ride quality one bit as far as I can tell. Each wheel still articulates perfectly over curbs at an angle and such. No extra noises, etc. The bar is very light, noticeably lighter than the stock bar when holding them.
It really is that light
I'm very happy with the effect my Strano 35mm bar had on the car. I already had a 21mm rear bar, so it balanced things out perfectly. Didn't affect ride quality one bit as far as I can tell. Each wheel still articulates perfectly over curbs at an angle and such. No extra noises, etc. The bar is very light, noticeably lighter than the stock bar when holding them.It really is that light
Originally Posted by JEB99TA
The solid 32mm bar I ordered is 27 lbs with end links. Sam, before I order (tonight) can you please verify the shipping weight for your 35mm hollow bar includes the bigger end links and the sway bar and it all comes in at 20 lbs actual weight?
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Originally Posted by trackbird
Even if it weighed 27 lbs, it would still be worth it (and it doesn't).
Why you wanna implicate I'm a liar like you did? ... dick. No no no, you totally misunderstood him. He meant that even if the Strano bar was that heavy, it would still be worth it to take the Strano bar over the one you bought.. Lighten up a bit
Originally Posted by JEB99TA
UPS shipping document shows it weighs 27.90 lbs with end links included, so, 'yes' it does ... you want me to scan it for you? Why you wanna implicate I'm a liar like you did? ... dick.
Why you wanna implicate I'm a liar like you did? ... dick.Though I must admit, I'm feeling less inspired to give a crap what you do at this point.....
There's so many trolls on these forums and it sounded like you were being a ********. I owe you an apology trackbird. I apologize for the misunderstanding on my part. Please accept my apology and I understand your last statement.
Nope, I thought that statement would make perfect sense, but I can see how you could misread it after looking at it again.
It's no problem.
I'm serious when I say that you will like that 35mm bar far better than the 32, but you'll only know this if you ran them both (which gets expensive), so those of us who have used the larger bars are trying to share our experience. Do it once, do it right, that's always been my motto and we're trying to save you the expense of doing it over.
It's no problem.
I'm serious when I say that you will like that 35mm bar far better than the 32, but you'll only know this if you ran them both (which gets expensive), so those of us who have used the larger bars are trying to share our experience. Do it once, do it right, that's always been my motto and we're trying to save you the expense of doing it over.
I ship them most every day.... they go out @ 20 pounds, boxed and all.... The bar itself is around the 15 pound mark.
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trackbird ... thanks man. The 32mm solid bar just arrived and I'll try it out this weekend while I await the arrival on the 35mm hollow bar I just ordered from Sam. The weight convinced me to go with Sam's bar ... seems like it would be senseless to go with the 32mm Spohn solid bar that's 12 pounds heavier.
I'll report back what I think of both products, once I try each of them out for about a week. Thanks to both you and Sam for your time and assistance on deciding which bar to go with.
JD_AMG ... thanks for the accurate weight of the bar.
subtlez28 ... yeah, you nailed it brother ... had already just purchased the solid bar when you chimed in ... lol!
I'll report back what I think of both products, once I try each of them out for about a week. Thanks to both you and Sam for your time and assistance on deciding which bar to go with.
JD_AMG ... thanks for the accurate weight of the bar.
subtlez28 ... yeah, you nailed it brother ... had already just purchased the solid bar when you chimed in ... lol!
Originally Posted by JD_AMG
The bar is in, and honestly I dont see any difference in the ride quality at all. But when you turn the steering wheel you can definetly tell theres a bigger bar on the car. 
Well, my results are in. I received the Spohn 32mm solid chrome moly bar last week and it weighs in at 20.6 lbs for the bar alone. I have to say I was happy to weigh the Strano 35mm hollow bar and it came in at 13.6 ... a little less than what Sam said it would weigh ... exactly 7 lbs lighter than the Spohn solid bar. I re-weighed the stock sway bar and it weighs in at 3 lbs less than Sam's bar. Holding the stock bar and Sam's bar side-by-side, I could tell it's a better bar, so, the 3 lb weight gain over the stock bar I believe is going to be worth the trade-off.
I will report back this weekend on the difference in the feeling of the new Strano bar from the old stock bar. Hopefully, it will feel noticeably different. I'll let you folks know.
I will report back this weekend on the difference in the feeling of the new Strano bar from the old stock bar. Hopefully, it will feel noticeably different. I'll let you folks know.
Reporting back (waaaaay late) Damn! It's not a week later, but, 5 months later ... this thread got buried. Anyway, after 5 months of driving in about every condition imagineable, the Strano 35mm hollow bar is a really nice addition to the handling capabilities of the car. Looks like I'm going to break down and buy the 22mm hollow bar from him, as well. Thanks Sam and to all who replied. You folks who reccommended Sam's bar to me were correct ... awesome piece of suspension equipment for sure!!!
