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Old 11-06-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Just had ATE rotors + HAWK HPS pads installed

used valvoline synthetic brake fluid to flush and refill the system.

Breaking is excellent. Really is night and day.

Cost breakdown:

ATE Premium One rotors set of 4 (2 front/ 2 rear) $354 shipped to my door from www.stranoparts.com

Hawk HPS pads bought off ebay through WS6STORE.COM ebay store $139 to my door

2 liters of valvoline full synthetic $10-11 bucks at autozone

4 packets of antibrake squeel lube $4 bucks at autozone

labor for chevy dealer to install $257 (includes left rear caliper replacement as mine was shot $33.00)

i wouldve installed everything myself but had no place to do so nor had time
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Installed mine this past Sunday. Same rotors, same pads, but I'm using ATE Super Blue.

Downside, it became very apparent that my front calipers have spread after breaking the pads in.
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how do you know they have spread? like does it drive a certain way? or did you take the wheels off and check them out? how much of a difference do you think there is in ATE superblue and valvoline full synthetic?
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I was looking at those rotors and to me they look a little odd with the star. Would you mind posting pics to see how they look

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The pads aren't coming into contact with the inner half inch or so portion of the rotor right now and the wear of the old pads was tapered slightly.

I've never used valvoline brake fluid, so I don't really have any foundation for comparison, but I'd imagine neither of us would be able to really tell any difference between the two.

I'll try to get some pics of the rotors this weekend to post up.
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I use the Super Blue. Sorry the chart below did not come out very good.

Brake Fluid Comparison
Approx Approx
BP After BP After
Fluid Dry BP Wet BP 3 Months 6 Months US$/oz. US$/oz/°F > DOT4
Dry Wet

Castrol SRF 590 518 572 554 2.076 0.0144 0.0100
NEO Super DOT 585 421 544 503 0.983 0.0071 0.0089
Motul Racing 600 585 421 544 503 0.712 0.0051 0.0065
Wilwood Hi-Temp 570 570 284 499 427 0.496 0.0040 -0.0184
AFCO Racing (570 Gold) 570 0.500 0.0040
AP600 572 378 524 475 1.062 0.0084 0.0159
Ford Heavy Duty DOT3 550 290 485 420
Performance Friction Z-Rated 550 284 484 417 0.492 0.0047 -0.0182
ATE Type 200 / ATE Super Blue 536 392 500 464 0.295 0.0033 0.0036
AP550 531 261 464 396 0.648 0.0076 -0.0130
Valvoline High Perf. Synthetic 513 333 468 423
Motul DOT 5.1 509 365 473 437 0.675 0.0107 0.0125
ATE SL 500+
DOT 5 Spec 500 346 462 423
Castrol LMA 450 311 415 381 0.219 0.0547
DOT 4 Spec 446 311 412 379
DOT 3 Spec 401 284 372 343


Comments:
I found all this on the web and nothing is guaranteed to be correct.
Wet boiling point is measured at 3.5% moisture, typical for one-year-old fluid.
AP600 is not compatibile with any other fluid.
Ford HD DOT3 is cheap and good for racing but has a low wet boiling point.
ATE Type 200/Super Blue is recommended by BMW.
ATE SL is OE on many European performance cars.
Martel Bros. offers a 5% discount if you mention their web site when ordering.

URL's for the above fluids plus other good info

http://www.neosyntheticoil.com/bkfluid.htm
http://www.martelbros.com/wilwood/59.htm
http://www.afcoracing.com/products/g...ProductID=1868
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/bkfld.htm
http://www.easystreet.com/~porsche/2c.html
http://www.muller.net/karting/docs/t...l/brfluid.html
http://www.diac.com/~cguy1/bmw/text/FAQ/FAQ.13.html
http://www.c-edge.com/shotimes/SHO3brakefluid.html
http://www.panteracars.com/motul.html <<Very informative
http://209.19.107.64/ogshell/loadpag...6+catbrak.html



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