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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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ok cool, yeah just want to make sure they dont say, oh you "modified/damaged" it haha thanks
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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I seriously doubt it would effect the warranty, but yes, there is a way to avoid it. You can cut or drill a hole in the shock tower for it to stick through. Here is the exact spot.

Just a FYI, that could let water to run into it causing rust on the top mount nut.
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonWW
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I seriously doubt it would effect the warranty, but yes, there is a way to avoid it. You can cut or drill a hole in the shock tower for it to stick through. Here is the exact spot.

Originally Posted by darknessxyz
Just a FYI, that could let water to run into it causing rust on the top mount nut.
http://homerepair.about.com/od/inter...ect_caul_4.htm
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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FYI, unless water never touches your car your still going to get rust in up in the upper mount, regardless if you drill a hole in that location or not.
You can always squirt some water proof grease in the hole , then put a piece of tape over it.
Regardless, I would still recommend coating the inside of the upper mount, the isolator, and the shock shaft from where it goes into the upper mount on up with something like the clear waterproof grease you put on poly bushings.

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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 03:59 AM
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FYI, unless water never touches your car your still going to get rust in up in the upper mount, regardless if you drill a hole in that location or not.
You can always squirt some water proof grease in the hole , then put a piece of tape over it.
Regardless, I would still recommend coating the inside of the upper mount, the isolator, and the shock shaft from where it goes into the upper mount on up with something like the clear waterproof grease you put on poly bushings.
I feel like stupid LOL.

I like the idea of putting bushing grease. I'll make a note of it.
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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I always pack a bunch of bearing grease around that shock nut to prevent rust. It works.

I'm considering doing away with the factory mount and replacing it with a rod end.
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Hmm amazing right up and idea. WIll this work on a 96? Im not sure the differences on the front control arms. But my front is lowered 1.25", with blisten shocks, just wondering if this can apply to me
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Nice write-up Jason!

I just read the first and last pages... Looks like a great walkthrough of the process.

I did have to clearance the shock tower on mine, on account of the shock rod sticking higher up into it.
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Hmm amazing right up and idea. WIll this work on a 96? Im not sure the differences on the front control arms. But my front is lowered 1.25", with blisten shocks, just wondering if this can apply to me
Yeah, all the 93-02 cars use the same front suspension parts.
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonWW

I'm considering doing away with the factory mount and replacing it with a rod end.
When you gonna release the detail?
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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Switching over to a rod end requires having the spring fully supported by the shock. Once that is done, then you can weld a rod end to the top of the shock. The upper shock mount is tossed aside and you use 4 nuts and bolts to attach the upper control arm mount to the shock tower. At this point you only need to weld 2 metal tabs to the UCA mount to bolt the rod end to.

If your using a Koni shock, you can unscrew the tophat and screw on a rod end style tophat which Koni sells. It even has the adjustment window in it, so it is very easy to do and won't void the shocks warranty.

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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Here is how you change the Koni shock. Unscrew the old, screw on the new. Simple.

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Here is how you can modify ANY shock to a sperical bearing.You buy a kit and then weld the main cylinder to the top of the shock rod. Then the bearing slides in and is held in place by snap rings.
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I'm also working on an aluminum drop spindle conversion which reduces the ride height 1.25", reduces unsprung weight, maintains the ABS and will do away with the shocktowers. It's pretty complicated and unfinished so I won't go into details here.

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That looks nice, you're a freaking geneis. Start a new thread with this. I've some question about it.
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by darknessxyz
That looks nice, you're a freaking geneis. Start a new thread with this. I've some question about it.
Start a thread on which subject? Switching to a rod end is basic race car stuff.
A started a thread already on the spindle swap.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...t-spindle.html
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 02:57 AM
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I mean about switching over to rod end top mount. I read about the short spindle conversion. That's something too complicate for me to deal with.

I wanna know what exactly need to be done to the top mount. Also, according to your pics, did the shock travel being reduced?
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by darknessxyz
I wanna know what exactly need to be done to the top mount. Also, according to your pics, did the shock travel get reduced?
It's all custom, man. You can do it however you want. You'll remove the big rubber shock mount completely. Then bolt the upper control arm to the shock tower. Cut the stud mount off the top of the shock and weld on a special section of pipe that comes in a "sperical bearing mounting kit". This piece of pipe is sized on the inside to have the bearing slide in very tightly and then has grooves on either side of it so snap rings can be inserted to keep the bearing from sliding out. This allows you weld on it without the bearing in place and also allows you to easily replace the bearing when it wears out.

You can then put the bearing higher or lower than the stock location. You can mount it as high as the hood if you want. You would just cut a big hole in that upper control arm piece so you can mount the rod end higher.

This is a picture of a sperical bearing mounting kit welded to the top of a coilover shock and then gold anodized to prevent corrosion. See how the bearing is held in place with snap rings?


You can also take the bearing and turn it sideways. This is often refered to as a "pillow ball mount".


I'm trying to decide whether a metal bearing or a polyurethane bushing would be best for me. The big advantage for me is the ease of removing the shocks. Right now you have to undo the 8 shock tower bolts, 2 master cylinder bolts, 2 ABS bolts, 4 lower shock bolts and finally the 2 stud bolts. I want to change this to only 4 lower shock bolts and 2 upper shock bolts. So from 18 bolts down to 6.

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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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For the spacer, did you essentially use the 3/4" part that you cut off the bottom of the mount and placed it on top of the mount under the nut? Can you just use a 3/4" hollow steel tube?

Are there any modifications available for the rear? I like the idea of doing this mod and cutting the springs for a nice 1" drop that won't cost a fortune and should drive very smooth. Would the rear just bottom out if the rear springs were cut to lower the car 1"?

I wonder what it would take to get my bilstein hd's to work. I'll try to take a look and post results.
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Originally Posted by ssbowtie1
For the spacer, did you essentially use the 3/4" part that you cut off the bottom of the mount and placed it on top of the mount under the nut? Can you just use a 3/4" hollow steel tube?
Yes, I did. A piece of pipe or a stack of washers, it will all work.
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Are there any modifications available for the rear? I like the idea of doing this mod and cutting the springs for a nice 1" drop that won't cost a fortune and should drive very smooth. Would the rear just bottom out if the rear springs were cut to lower the car 1"?

I wonder what it would take to get my bilstein hd's to work. I'll try to take a look and post results.
I was able to get about 3/4" more travel in the back by modifying the bumpstops to be long and progressive. To reduce the harshness of hitting the stops, I increased the springrate up to 150lbs and was also running a better shock. All this combined to make the rear ride much smoother.
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Did anyone else use a hacksaw to do this? I don't have access to a bandsaw (I don't think) and I don't trust just anyone performing this. If I can mark it and hacksaw it then I know it'll be right. What blade should be used with a hacksaw?
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