Weight lifting gurus... I have a couple questions.
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You are false, you over extend your miniscus and acl when you go past parallel. Touch your calves to you hanstrings with 3 plates on the bar. Do this a few times and come back with the results. In competetion you are only required to go parallel. They know what happens if you go past. DIstance to get the weigh up is not a measure of strength. Momentum has nothing to do with working out. If you use momentum then you arent strong enough and need to kick the weight down.
Oh and that is not the kind of momentum i was talking about lol. When i talk about going ***-to-ground, i see it as as far down as you can go until the point of no return, with heavy weight. You do need to listen to your body and not over-do it. Me personally, my left knee is terrible, and stopping at parallel kills it! I hate watching people that use momentum when working out, and their whole body on exercises, i.e. cable rows, lat pull downs, etc... You want isolated, controlled, movements. I see people throwing up 110 dumbbells with bad form and it's just plain is stupid, i wanna tell them to just back it down to 95 and go down for 4 secs and explode up for 2, etc... It's all about form.
It's tough to remember sometimes that everyone's body is built differently. Again, people have to listen to their body and do what feels the best to them, which means not getting hurt but at the same time pushing yourself to making gains.
And Mikey looks like he knows what he's talking about here. So ill let him take it from here lol.
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h/c/i stang, awesome info man. Im going to def take your advice. Last yr when I worked out more often, I used to do slow reps and saw good gains. I recently started working out again a couple months ago and strayed away from the slow reps and havent seen the results I had in the past. Thanks for the help man.
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A great video on squat form:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81301858251744
It is crazy to hear so many people argue against good depth while squatting. It can be bad for your knees if done incorrectly but with good form it is actually safer. Stopping above parallel puts much greater stress on your knees. Every competitive weightlifter is supposed to go below parallel, like olympic lifting where every lift is literally ATG.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81301858251744
It is crazy to hear so many people argue against good depth while squatting. It can be bad for your knees if done incorrectly but with good form it is actually safer. Stopping above parallel puts much greater stress on your knees. Every competitive weightlifter is supposed to go below parallel, like olympic lifting where every lift is literally ATG.
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Yeah it's a famous argument, just two differing opinions on the matter with evidence that goes both ways lol.
Oh and that is not the kind of momentum i was talking about lol. When i talk about going ***-to-ground, i see it as as far down as you can go until the point of no return, with heavy weight. You do need to listen to your body and not over-do it. Me personally, my left knee is terrible, and stopping at parallel kills it! I hate watching people that use momentum when working out, and their whole body on exercises, i.e. cable rows, lat pull downs, etc... You want isolated, controlled, movements. I see people throwing up 110 dumbbells with bad form and it's just plain is stupid, i wanna tell them to just back it down to 95 and go down for 4 secs and explode up for 2, etc... It's all about form.
It's tough to remember sometimes that everyone's body is built differently. Again, people have to listen to their body and do what feels the best to them, which means not getting hurt but at the same time pushing yourself to making gains.
And Mikey looks like he knows what he's talking about here. So ill let him take it from here lol.
Oh and that is not the kind of momentum i was talking about lol. When i talk about going ***-to-ground, i see it as as far down as you can go until the point of no return, with heavy weight. You do need to listen to your body and not over-do it. Me personally, my left knee is terrible, and stopping at parallel kills it! I hate watching people that use momentum when working out, and their whole body on exercises, i.e. cable rows, lat pull downs, etc... You want isolated, controlled, movements. I see people throwing up 110 dumbbells with bad form and it's just plain is stupid, i wanna tell them to just back it down to 95 and go down for 4 secs and explode up for 2, etc... It's all about form.
It's tough to remember sometimes that everyone's body is built differently. Again, people have to listen to their body and do what feels the best to them, which means not getting hurt but at the same time pushing yourself to making gains.
And Mikey looks like he knows what he's talking about here. So ill let him take it from here lol.
I have to hold myself back from telling people that they're wasting their time doing whatever they're doing.
h/c/i stang, awesome info man. Im going to def take your advice. Last yr when I worked out more often, I used to do slow reps and saw good gains. I recently started working out again a couple months ago and strayed away from the slow reps and havent seen the results I had in the past. Thanks for the help man.
Please feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
BTW, I just did legs tonight. I... can... barely... walk...
- Leg Press x2 sets/10 (to warm up)
- Squats x5 sets/5 +1 set/20
- Weighted lunges x3 sets/6
- Leg extensions x3 sets/10
- Leg curls x3 sets/10
- Calf raises x3 sets/10
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I rotate exercises every time i go in. I have a 3 exercise rotation just like DC describes. one day its leg press..another day is squats, and my last rotation day is hack squat. 20 second static holds are brutal! Most don't even have the nuts to attempt a 20 second static hold with 800+ lbs.
1 working set. 4 warmup sets.
My soreness is just enough to know I did well and that I can completely feel no soreness by the 4th day when its time to go back at it on legs. My workouts are slow down, explode up. I do a 6 second negative phase on every rep. Id rather grow at double the pace then working out so hard it takes me a full week to recover. Growing 52 times a yr vs 104 isnt putting on much size
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Athlete's have been doing one legged squats for years now. Obviously the goal is to build balance, stability, and core strength. You can also correct any right/left side dominance.
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Don't get me started...
Ben,
I tried not to chime in here, because of how annoying it is when people ask you for help, but don't want to help theirselves.
No offense, but please quit giving retarded advice.
Would you care to compare pictures to show how good your exercise is working for you???
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This thread gets even funnier, lol.
Don't get me started...
Ben,
I tried not to chime in here, because of how annoying it is when people ask you for help, but don't want to help theirselves.
No offense, but please quit giving retarded advice.
Would you care to compare pictures to show how good your exercise is working for you???
Don't get me started...
Ben,
I tried not to chime in here, because of how annoying it is when people ask you for help, but don't want to help theirselves.
No offense, but please quit giving retarded advice.
Would you care to compare pictures to show how good your exercise is working for you???
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This thread gets even funnier, lol.
Don't get me started...
Ben,
I tried not to chime in here, because of how annoying it is when people ask you for help, but don't want to help theirselves.
No offense, but please quit giving retarded advice.
Would you care to compare pictures to show how good your exercise is working for you???
Don't get me started...
Ben,
I tried not to chime in here, because of how annoying it is when people ask you for help, but don't want to help theirselves.
No offense, but please quit giving retarded advice.
Would you care to compare pictures to show how good your exercise is working for you???
And I've lost over 60 lbs through diet and exercise so I would think I'm doing something right.
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Adversely, I have gained over 60lbs of PURE muscle in my 7 yrs of training, so I would think that I'm doing something right as well.
You keep doing your one legged squats, meanwhile...I will be over here doing my little 495lb squats and making GAINS.
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i built my foundation with powerlifting, moved to bodybuilding.
my pb was 220 lbs. 7% bf. when i was training on the regular.
i hurt my back(at work, not training) so i stopped for few yrs. just starting back up.
im not starting from the bottom, im digging myself out of a hole.
some of the newer supplements are really helping me out.
i tried some of Super Pump250 and dam! it works
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thats real good. very impressive
i built my foundation with powerlifting, moved to bodybuilding.
my pb was 220 lbs. 7% bf. when i was training on the regular.
i hurt my back(at work, not training) so i stopped for few yrs. just starting back up.
im not starting from the bottom, im digging myself out of a hole.
some of the newer supplements are really helping me out.
i tried some of Super Pump250 and dam! it works
i built my foundation with powerlifting, moved to bodybuilding.
my pb was 220 lbs. 7% bf. when i was training on the regular.
i hurt my back(at work, not training) so i stopped for few yrs. just starting back up.
im not starting from the bottom, im digging myself out of a hole.
some of the newer supplements are really helping me out.
i tried some of Super Pump250 and dam! it works
I just train daily.
I guess, one could classify me as moreso a bodybuilder.
I'm 6/2 238lbs and around 11% bf.
I got a few pictures, but I ain't on here to brag.
I don't take anything but protein and I am a strong advocate of not taking any supplements really.
I have more drive and desire than most of anyone in the gym(including the ones on the squeeze).
The mirror is what drives me.