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Old 03-23-2010, 12:04 PM
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What is the largest cam you can run in an LS2 GTO with stock heads and rockers? Also what can you do to increase P to V? Thanks
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Biggest depends on what you want out of the car, P to V clearance equals fly cutting your stock pistons. Some say the biggest is the 3/4 race cam.
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Do you have longtubes and or any other bolt-ons? Shoving a donkey dick cam in heavy *** car like a GTO is recipe for shitty time slips and getting your *** cracked on the street...but it sure will sound mean! I would stick to a cam with 8 degrees or less of overlap if this is your daily driver. There are several factors that determine P to V, not just lift, you have to consider the amount of advance ground into the cam along with duration as well..
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Not the topic that came to mind when I saw P to V....
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Originally Posted by txmaro
not the topic that came to mind when i saw p to v....
lmao!! X2
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Originally Posted by TXMaro
Not the topic that came to mind when I saw P to V....
Same here, but I bet mine is still different. In my world P2V is the term for taking a physical computer and converting it to a virtual machine.

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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
Same here, but I bet mine is still different. In my world P2V is the term for taking a physical computer and converting it to a virtual machine.

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I work in IT and work with VMWare quite often. Looked over and thought I was logged into our ticket managment system, aka remedy. Had to take a double look.
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Its my brothers GTO and he has lts and intake(not manifold) and he bought a donkey dick cam cause he wants it more for sound than E.T. if its faster than stock and sounds like John Force he would be satisfied.
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The cam is a Comp Cam its 248/258 .620s/.630s 113 LSA
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ROFL...sounds like the Texas Giant or darn close, that is for big cube motors, good luck with that on stock cubes, heads etc...
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Its a little bigger lol but he wants it to sound like a dragster and I'm gonna build him a set of heads next year at school so that will help some once I actually do it.
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Putting that cam in stock displacement LS2 is pissing in the wind, even with heads. He would need 400+ cubes to benefit from that cam. That monster has 27 degrees of overlap and is going to be a nightmare to tune in any drivability with a stock motor. He can get good performance and a choppy idle from a smaller cam that won't **** his drivability.
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yeah but he wont listen to my even though i go too the school of automotive machinists...he just got a good deal on it
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If he just wants the dragster sound but still drivability why not just drop the lobe seperation and increase the duration split? You don't need to put a cam in that big just to get the sound. My 02 had a reverse split cam with a 110 Lobe sep. and it loped pretty hard. Personaly I would have gone with a trex or somthing along those lines MAX. They are proven to work with stock heads. That thing is going to be a dog out of the hole and he'll probably have to raise his idle way over 1k rpms. Plus if it's a daiy driver he'll need new valve springs at least once a year depending on miles driven.
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Originally Posted by redz_02
If he just wants the dragster sound but still drivability why not just drop the lobe seperation and increase the duration split? You don't need to put a cam in that big just to get the sound. My 02 had a reverse split cam with a 110 Lobe sep. and it loped pretty hard. Personaly I would have gone with a trex or somthing along those lines MAX. They are proven to work with stock heads. That thing is going to be a dog out of the hole and he'll probably have to raise his idle way over 1k rpms. Plus if it's a daiy driver he'll need new valve springs at least once a year depending on miles driven.
spot on, heavy *** goat with stock gearing is going to be a pig with that cam. I would not be surprised if a bolton goat walked him from a dig. I wonder if this car is an auto or M6? He is going to need a steeper gear either way and stall if its an A4...I would just return the 'mighty maul of the titans cam' and reorder another cam...
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Originally Posted by 03Sssnake
Putting that cam in stock displacement LS2 is pissing in the wind, even with heads. He would need 400+ cubes to benefit from that cam. That monster has 27 degrees of overlap and is going to be a nightmare to tune in any drivability with a stock motor. He can get good performance and a choppy idle from a smaller cam that won't **** his drivability.
Agreed, here is a vid. of my brothers cammed SS TB which also has the LS2. Nasty idle but still drivable, this is the first start up but starts idling at 1.40 in the vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4dve50EOig&NR=1
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Originally Posted by rtrygstad
yeah but he wont listen to my even though i go too the school of automotive machinists...he just got a good deal on it
What would Jud have to say about this?
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Jud said if my brother is gonna be stubborn about it to put it in straight up tune with air density not maf and gear it a good amount which is what he plans to do.
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he said puttin it in straight up would let it idle fine just have **** for power down low
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holy hell!!!!

this guy i know put a 238/242 604/610 112lsa in his stock cubed ls1 goat and that cam is WAAAAAAAAAAY to big for it... he revs that bitch to almost 7K and he only ran a 13.0... sounds good but man if i spent that much on a cam i would want more outta it, he made ~400 to the wheels... not a good choice for your bro, slap him on the head and tell him he's an idiot!



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