Anybody seen whats in our new Healthcar bill? Take a look at.
04-16-2010, 07:45 AM
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Really well lets see your prof that its BS. I looked on snopes with nothing there about it. So no I didn't make the same mistake twice as I checked there before posting it. Not all emails are jokes and propaganda. And I am not saying it is true for sure as I don't know as I haven't seen the 2700 page bill.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/frazer.asp
Originally Posted by snopes.com
Many of the claims this item makes about health care reform legislation are erroneous.
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all someone would have to do to be the next president is run on the platform that he will appeal pretty much everything obama has done... it would be a landslide. over half the country said we dont want this bill and it passed anyway. we all need to remember that when it comes election time. the cowtailing reps and senators need to be cleaned out and replaced with some real leaders who will actually represent what the PEOPLE want, not the administration.....
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When Texas secedes, we're not taking Corny..... The snopes article also states that those statements were based on an earlier version of the bill. The fact that they EVER made it on the bill in the first place further highlights the need for sweeping change in the house. Get inline with the people of GTFO congress
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Anyone else ever wonder what the background is on snopes? What are their credentials? Do they really check all this stuff out?
If you want to see government healthcare in the US, you can see it in Oklahoma in the tribal healthcare system. Reminds me of the hospital in Idiocracy. "Put this one in your mouth and this one in your butt."..... "Wait... I got them backwards. Put THIS one in your mouth and THIS one in your butt."
If you want to see government healthcare in the US, you can see it in Oklahoma in the tribal healthcare system. Reminds me of the hospital in Idiocracy. "Put this one in your mouth and this one in your butt."..... "Wait... I got them backwards. Put THIS one in your mouth and THIS one in your butt."
04-16-2010, 10:57 AM
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It makes me LOL at the people that say the govt. decides when i die.. The health ins. companies do the exact same thing right now.. bottom line is there trying to run it like a business..
04-16-2010, 11:07 AM
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IS THIS PROFOUND OR JUST AN ASTUTE ANALYSIS?
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March
17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco
+ K-Mart combined.
5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people and is the largest private
employer, and most speak English.
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the World.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger & Safeway combined, and keep
in mind they did this in only 15 years.
8. During this same period, 31 supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super
Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had 5 Years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur At
a Wal-Mart store. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground
work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run
Wal-Mart to fix the economy.
This should be read and understood by all Americans
Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To Congress:
The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. It is a legal monopoly.
You have had 234 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Social Security was established in 1935.
You have had 74 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Fannie Mae was established in 1938.
You have had 71 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
War on Poverty started in 1964.
You have had 45 years to get it right; 1$ trillion of our money is
confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.
Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965.
You have had 44 years to get it right and they are BROKE.
Freddie Mac was established in 1970.
You have had 39 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
The Department of Energy was created in 1977,to lessen our dependence on
foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year
and we import more oil than ever before.
You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal FAILURE.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our
throats while overspending our tax dollars.
AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A
GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March
17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco
+ K-Mart combined.
5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people and is the largest private
employer, and most speak English.
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the World.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger & Safeway combined, and keep
in mind they did this in only 15 years.
8. During this same period, 31 supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super
Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had 5 Years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur At
a Wal-Mart store. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground
work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run
Wal-Mart to fix the economy.
This should be read and understood by all Americans
Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To Congress:
The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. It is a legal monopoly.
You have had 234 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Social Security was established in 1935.
You have had 74 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Fannie Mae was established in 1938.
You have had 71 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
War on Poverty started in 1964.
You have had 45 years to get it right; 1$ trillion of our money is
confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.
Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965.
You have had 44 years to get it right and they are BROKE.
Freddie Mac was established in 1970.
You have had 39 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
The Department of Energy was created in 1977,to lessen our dependence on
foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year
and we import more oil than ever before.
You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal FAILURE.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our
throats while overspending our tax dollars.
AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A
GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??
04-16-2010, 11:53 AM
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You must not have checked too hard. Took me all of 5 seconds...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/frazer.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/frazer.asp
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IS THIS PROFOUND OR JUST AN ASTUTE ANALYSIS?
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March
17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco
+ K-Mart combined.
5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people and is the largest private
employer, and most speak English.
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the World.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger & Safeway combined, and keep
in mind they did this in only 15 years.
8. During this same period, 31 supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super
Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had 5 Years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur At
a Wal-Mart store. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground
work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run
Wal-Mart to fix the economy.
This should be read and understood by all Americans
Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To Congress:
The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. It is a legal monopoly.
You have had 234 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Social Security was established in 1935.
You have had 74 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Fannie Mae was established in 1938.
You have had 71 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
War on Poverty started in 1964.
You have had 45 years to get it right; 1$ trillion of our money is
confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.
Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965.
You have had 44 years to get it right and they are BROKE.
Freddie Mac was established in 1970.
You have had 39 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
The Department of Energy was created in 1977,to lessen our dependence on
foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year
and we import more oil than ever before.
You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal FAILURE.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our
throats while overspending our tax dollars.
AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A
GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March
17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco
+ K-Mart combined.
5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people and is the largest private
employer, and most speak English.
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the World.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger & Safeway combined, and keep
in mind they did this in only 15 years.
8. During this same period, 31 supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super
Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had 5 Years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur At
a Wal-Mart store. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground
work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run
Wal-Mart to fix the economy.
This should be read and understood by all Americans
Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To Congress:
The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. It is a legal monopoly.
You have had 234 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Social Security was established in 1935.
You have had 74 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Fannie Mae was established in 1938.
You have had 71 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
War on Poverty started in 1964.
You have had 45 years to get it right; 1$ trillion of our money is
confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.
Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965.
You have had 44 years to get it right and they are BROKE.
Freddie Mac was established in 1970.
You have had 39 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
The Department of Energy was created in 1977,to lessen our dependence on
foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year
and we import more oil than ever before.
You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal FAILURE.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our
throats while overspending our tax dollars.
AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A
GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??
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I hear you, I was talking to a buddy of mine the other night about this. He has his CDL and was really wanting to go to med school, and he put all those plans on hold with the passing of this bill. He's afraid it wont be worth all the time and money invested.
Name of said island.....maybe we could trade them governments lol.
Name of said island.....maybe we could trade them governments lol.
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IS THIS PROFOUND OR JUST AN ASTUTE ANALYSIS?
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March
17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco
+ K-Mart combined.
5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people and is the largest private
employer, and most speak English.
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the World.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger & Safeway combined, and keep
in mind they did this in only 15 years.
8. During this same period, 31 supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super
Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had 5 Years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur At
a Wal-Mart store. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground
work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run
Wal-Mart to fix the economy.
This should be read and understood by all Americans
Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To Congress:
The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. It is a legal monopoly.
You have had 234 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Social Security was established in 1935.
You have had 74 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Fannie Mae was established in 1938.
You have had 71 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
War on Poverty started in 1964.
You have had 45 years to get it right; 1$ trillion of our money is
confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.
Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965.
You have had 44 years to get it right and they are BROKE.
Freddie Mac was established in 1970.
You have had 39 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
The Department of Energy was created in 1977,to lessen our dependence on
foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year
and we import more oil than ever before.
You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal FAILURE.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our
throats while overspending our tax dollars.
AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A
GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??
1. Americans spend $36,000,000 at Wal-Mart every hour of every day.
2. This works out to $20,928 profit every minute!
3. Wal-Mart will sell more from January 1 to St. Patrick's Day (March
17th) than Target sells all year.
4. Wal-Mart is bigger than Home Depot + Kroger + Target + Sears + Costco
+ K-Mart combined.
5. Wal-Mart employs 1.6 million people and is the largest private
employer, and most speak English.
6. Wal-Mart is the largest company in the history of the World.
7. Wal-Mart now sells more food than Kroger & Safeway combined, and keep
in mind they did this in only 15 years.
8. During this same period, 31 supermarket chains sought bankruptcy.
9. Wal-Mart now sells more food than any other store in the world.
10. Wal-Mart has approx 3,900 stores in the USA of which 1,906 are Super
Centers; this is 1,000 more than it had 5 Years ago.
11. This year 7.2 billion different purchasing experiences will occur At
a Wal-Mart store. (Earth's population is approximately 6.5 Billion.)
12. 90% of all Americans live within 15 miles of a Wal-Mart.
You may think that I am complaining, but I am really laying the ground
work for suggesting that MAYBE we should hire the guys who run
Wal-Mart to fix the economy.
This should be read and understood by all Americans
Democrats, Republicans, EVERYONE!!
To Congress:
The U.S. Postal Service was established in 1775. It is a legal monopoly.
You have had 234 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Social Security was established in 1935.
You have had 74 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
Fannie Mae was established in 1938.
You have had 71 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
War on Poverty started in 1964.
You have had 45 years to get it right; 1$ trillion of our money is
confiscated each year and transferred to "the poor" and they only want more.
Medicare and Medicaid were established in 1965.
You have had 44 years to get it right and they are BROKE.
Freddie Mac was established in 1970.
You have had 39 years to get it right and it is BROKE.
The Department of Energy was created in 1977,to lessen our dependence on
foreign oil. It has ballooned to 16,000 employees with a budget of $24 billion a year
and we import more oil than ever before.
You had 32 years to get it right and it is an abysmal FAILURE.
You have FAILED in every "government service" you have shoved down our
throats while overspending our tax dollars.
AND YOU WANT AMERICANS TO BELIEVE YOU CAN BE TRUSTED WITH A
GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM??
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The only problem I have with Wal-Mart is they do not pay their employees enough. They may employ alot of people but a majority of their employees do not pay into the federal tax system at all. Actually the government pays them every tax year. Wal-Mart could afford to pay alot better than they do and if everyone (not just Wal-Mart) paid their employees better they would make more money in the long run and everyone could afford healthcare which in turn would drop healthcare prices. Combine this with a good tort reform bill and deregulate health insurance so that we could buy insurance in other states and that would make healthcare more than affordable.
04-16-2010, 02:57 PM
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The only problem I have with Wal-Mart is they do not pay their employees enough. They may employ alot of people but a majority of their employees do not pay into the federal tax system at all. Actually the government pays them every tax year. Wal-Mart could afford to pay alot better than they do and if everyone (not just Wal-Mart) paid their employees better they would make more money in the long run and everyone could afford healthcare which in turn would drop healthcare prices. Combine this with a good tort reform bill and deregulate health insurance so that we could buy insurance in other states and that would make healthcare more than affordable.
I think you are missing the point. Walmart works because they pay people what they are worth and provide product at a low cost to consumers. If the government would quit giving so damn many handouts to lazy ******* Americans and to foreign countries who have no interest or ability to pay us back, it would be a "successful business" much like Walmart.
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They don't pay their employees much because most of their employees are uneducated people who need little to no brains to do their job. If they paid their cashiers and stockers $25/hour, the company would not be successful in business. If those underpaid employees really wanted to make some money by working at Walmart, they'd go to school and work their way into a management or corporate position at Walmart. I'm sure Walmart would pay for a good amount of their education to do so.
I think you are missing the point. Walmart works because they pay people what they are worth and provide product at a low cost to consumers. If the government would quit giving so damn many handouts to lazy ******* Americans and to foreign countries who have no interest or ability to pay us back, it would be a "successful business" much like Walmart.
I think you are missing the point. Walmart works because they pay people what they are worth and provide product at a low cost to consumers. If the government would quit giving so damn many handouts to lazy ******* Americans and to foreign countries who have no interest or ability to pay us back, it would be a "successful business" much like Walmart.
Getting off topic here, about wal-mart not paying good....I used to work the distribution center and I made good money (14.25 or so iirc) which is pretty good for a 19 year old. The only problem I found was Wal-Mart was far too concerned with covering thier own *** and pinning everything that went wrong on you to a point that it hurt morale and productivity. Examples:
- If you got hurt at all, it was your fault, it didn't matter they would find a way to make it your fault and give you a write up, which would effect your evaluation, and thus your ability to move up in the company.
-Case in point I filled orders which meant building pallets of goods, many of which were upward of 6.5-7 ft tall. I was putting some stuff up on a pallet, and threw my elbow out. Got a write-up because I wasn't "in the green lifting zone" (between waist and neck). No ****! Unless you were yao ming you couldn't do the job and keep stuff in the green lifting zone. Needless to say I never reported injury again.
-You had a set amount of time to pull orders for the week(90% as quick as actual alloted time iirc), you fall below, you get a write up. However they had an incentive program where if you pulled above 100% (i.e. faster than quota time) you get that percent times your wage times the amount of time you pulled. Every time we would have a week like this they would come back saying there were too many mispicks and no bonus.....needless to say we eventually pulled just hard enough to get by.
Sorry got off on my Wal-Mart rant there. There is no denying they have a very successful business model, one which the U.S. government could certainly take something from.
And X2 on finding job in Grand Cayman and move there lol.
04-16-2010, 04:08 PM
#38
I got a email just like that and i can say 90% of it is false. Its propaganda, If u see the bill its not even formatted like that. Ever line with a page number is followed up by the purpose law in the bill. Its no one liners in there. I have e.mail the people that sent me this stuff and the response I got was " Who did i vote for?" Do I want to join a militia in SC, What color am I and would i vote for a republican. Im with inspecter 12 im not into politics and so on but I would love to know where and how my tax dollar is being spent. 90% of this healthcare bill is old and was thought up back in the clition era and futher back than that. Honestly I can care less whos in charge of the white house or who holds the senate because under bush he did what ever the **** he wanted under Obama he is doing what ever he wants. All this uproar is really a big slap in the face on America. The ony thing that the goverment can agree on is going to war and spending money in other contries. We are suppose to be number one, So why all the homeless and poor people? We send over 10 billion in Aid to other contries can u imagine what wonders that money could do if it stayed here?
04-16-2010, 04:14 PM
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They don't pay their employees much because most of their employees are uneducated people who need little to no brains to do their job. If they paid their cashiers and stockers $25/hour, the company would not be successful in business.
Thats a LIE I know a number of collage students working in walmart, Are they stupid? Dont make a jugdement call like that because there are a number of vets that work there to. That is a low cut way to say some ****. I think they all need to be paid 10 bucks an hour mainly if their students and single parents.
Thats a LIE I know a number of collage students working in walmart, Are they stupid? Dont make a jugdement call like that because there are a number of vets that work there to. That is a low cut way to say some ****. I think they all need to be paid 10 bucks an hour mainly if their students and single parents.
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They don't pay their employees much because most of their employees are uneducated people who need little to no brains to do their job. If they paid their cashiers and stockers $25/hour, the company would not be successful in business. If those underpaid employees really wanted to make some money by working at Walmart, they'd go to school and work their way into a management or corporate position at Walmart. I'm sure Walmart would pay for a good amount of their education to do so.
I think you are missing the point. Walmart works because they pay people what they are worth and provide product at a low cost to consumers. If the government would quit giving so damn many handouts to lazy ******* Americans and to foreign countries who have no interest or ability to pay us back, it would be a "successful business" much like Walmart.
I think you are missing the point. Walmart works because they pay people what they are worth and provide product at a low cost to consumers. If the government would quit giving so damn many handouts to lazy ******* Americans and to foreign countries who have no interest or ability to pay us back, it would be a "successful business" much like Walmart.