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Old May 17, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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man right now im really depressed dam it well i need some advice i just had ls6 799's heads put on my car shop just called me said it broke so i need help find out if it is my heads, or just not torqued down enough the heads are cnc ported flow about 310cfm and are milled .20 stock valves
u can see on my sig.. what other stuff i have well he tuned it for motor ran fine then when he juiced it he said after it idled down it started clattering bad and water n oil mixed he thinks maybe a water jacket blew so i called the guy that sold me the heads and he claims no way it could of be that he thinks it lifted a head he asked what they were toqued down to that he should of torqued em down to 90pounds so i call the shop where the car is at he said he torqued them at 80 is that a big difference could it have been that? theirs no hole in my pan and it will still run just knocking and clattering any idea what could of happened if that is even possible to lift a head??? help me please
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Old May 17, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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If you have water in the oil it could be a blown head gasket. The clattering/knocking you are hearing could be a result of the oil being thinned out. being torqued to 80 sounds right if you have head studs.

What head gaskets were used?
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Old May 17, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bad chad
if you have water in the oil it could be a blown head gasket. The clattering/knocking you are hearing could be a result of the oil being thinned out. Being torqued to 80 sounds right if you have head studs.

What head gaskets were used?
gm mls head gasket
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Old May 17, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by killerwhale
gm mls head gasket
i also went into ls1 how to and it says torque em down to 90pounds
so i guess that was the problem well not sure till he pulls my heads off but as of right now they were torqued down 80 pounds
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Old May 17, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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if they were under torqued it is possible that the vibration loosened the bolts id say pull the valve cover and make sure all the bolts are still tight and down if it lifted at all it would have blown out the gasket
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Old May 17, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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thats one long sentence

cliffs?
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yeah yeah im not at work or school right now so screw grammer
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yeah yeah im not at work or school right now so screw grammer
i wasn't even talking about you. it was directed at the OP.

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Originally Posted by 5w20
thats one long sentence

cliffs?
The guy is having a really hard time. Give him a break.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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I would be shitting a brick right about now. I can't imagine spending money on the heads and all just to f up my motor. Hell, I just bought this T/A this last week and now it needs rear end work and the motor has a nice tick... Oh well. I feel your pain at least OP.
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This is why I do my own work. Learn and save some money.....
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Originally Posted by WILDMN
I would be shitting a brick right about now. I can't imagine spending money on the heads and all just to f up my motor. Hell, I just bought this T/A this last week and now it needs rear end work and the motor has a nice tick... Oh well. I feel your pain at least OP.
I know exactly how you feel. I bought my car and threw a rod 6 days later.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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yeah he could have had a head bolt break in the block like i did.

Ill replace head gaskets all day long, over doing that again.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by WILDMN
I would be shitting a brick right about now. I can't imagine spending money on the heads and all just to f up my motor. Hell, I just bought this T/A this last week and now it needs rear end work and the motor has a nice tick... Oh well. I feel your pain at least OP.
thanks man sorry bout your rear and i did just spend a bunch of money i had just installed my moser two weeks before that plust stage 2 4l60e wich was about 6k for both so yeah i feel like shitt
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Old May 18, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BAD2000TA
This is why I do my own work. Learn and save some money.....
yeah should of just did it myself
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Old May 18, 2011 | 09:11 AM
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THANKS FOR THE INFO everyone that wrote on here, but sorry i forgot to say they are dish pistons with valve reliefs but i went to his shop yesterday and heard it my self very loud tap noise sorta like if it is piston slap not sure though cause when u idle it the loud tap knock noise goes away and u can definitely tell its on passenger side front first piston u can put your hand on the front the pass. head an feel the tapping just wierd that it goes away when u give gas well he is gonna stick a camera down in their through spark plug hole to see if the piston looks damaged if not he thinks maybe cam bolt broke or bearing idk
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Old May 18, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Well hopefully it is nothing major and you can get it fixed. Be sure to update.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 10:33 AM
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Damn .. Best of luck with your motor.

Its sad hearing people spend all the time and money on your toys, to find out something wasn't done right and something breaks.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SSHAWK
Damn .. Best of luck with your motor.

Its sad hearing people spend all the time and money on your toys, to find out something wasn't done right and something breaks.
THANK U GUYS and i will update when he tears it apart today hopefully
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Question: Why keep starting the motor if there is such a loud tapping noise?

Hope it gets resolved and it isnt that bad.
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