Why trade in a 2010 or 2011 Camaro SS?
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Only thing im getting rid of mine for is a 09+ CTS-V and that day is getting closer and closer.......The car itself is fairly comfortable compared to previous versions of GM products. I can see the complaints people make but the only thing the coyote mustang has on the SS is performance, everything else I would swing to the camaro, looks, interior, build, ride quality.
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I have a 2011 2SS. Yes they have a blind spot. Problem for driving not at all. They have these wonderfull things called mirrors. Adjust them correctly and you can see just fine. As for the new stang well the stock ones I have seen at the track the last month or two have run 13.90 to 13.40.
The fastest bone stock 5th gen so far that I know of is a 12.58 @ 110mph. We bought a SLP 2002 SS with a lid and Drag radials best time was a 12.98.
The fastest 4th gen was stock that I have seen was a 12.57.
Here is the bone stock Fast list from Camaro 5
Stock
NO Member Engine Date 60' 1/8 ET @ MPH 1/4 ET @ MPH Details
1
nhra stocker
LS3
3/7/10
1.972
8.195 @ 88.58 MPH
12.588 @ 110.30 MPH
263
2
2quick
LS3
1/10/10
1.955
8.204 @ 88.05 MPH
12.615 @ 111.60 MPH
188
3
blufin
LS3
1/12/10
1.932
8.165 @ 86.52 MPH
12.618 @ 110.75 MPH
780
4
02Pewtersix
LS3
10/30/10
2.03
8.317 @ 88.34 MPH
12.710 @ 111.80 MPH
672
5
Monte
LS3
4/24/10
2.012
8.329 @ 87.11 MPH
12.775 @ 110.98 MPH
410
6
b20
LS3
11/15/09
1.936
8.326 @ 85.02 MPH
12.811 @ 108.73MPH
3
7
376Camaro
LS3
7/3/10
2.163
8.438 @ 87.69 MPH
12.831 @ 113.27 MPH
502
8
Toyaholic
LS3
4/13/11
2.017
8.392 @ 86.35 MPH
12.864 @ 110.91 MPH
821
9
8secpumpgasdad
L99
3/8/10
1.9059
8.321 @ 85.54 MPH
12.868 @ 108.7 MPH
270
10
speedy6963
LS3
7/17/09
2.046
8.409 @ 86.59 MPH
12.874 @ 109.08 MPH
10
11
jrrod6410
LS3
12/19/09
2.023
8.399 @ 86.96 MPH
12.903 @ 109.85 MPH
790
12
hysonmb
LS3
4/30/11
2.102
8.484 @ 86.04 MPH
12.970 @ 109.51 MPH
892
13
8ty8 ls1
L99
10/20/09
1.923
8.385 @ 83.54 MPH
12.971 @ 107.61 MPH
99
14
1stGM
L99
11/29/09
1.935
8.399 @ 85.09 MPH
12.985 @ 107.34 MPH
159
15
shadow09
LS3
10/30/10
2.10
8.536 @ 85.75 MPH
13.010 @ 110.73 MPH
671
16
Evowake
LS3
5/28/10
2.109
8.563 @ 86.54 MPH
13.013 @ 110.84 MPH
543
17
SSmokey
LS3
1/20/10
2.106
8.559 @ 85.88 MPH
13.040 @ 110.80 MPH
202
18
Eric Fischer
LS3
4/22/11
1.997
8.475 @ 84.98 MPH
13.050 @ 106.87 MPH
886
19
blue-bayou
LS3
6/24/11
1.936
8.491 @ 84.18 MPH
13.061 @ 108.69 MPH
958
20
NineBall
LS3
7/13/09
2.057
8.512 @ 85.13 MPH
13.070 @ 109.07 MPH
9
21
Kathy63
LS3
7/26/09
1.892
8.439 @ 83.76 MPH
13.075 @ 105.84 MPH
210
22
Jorux
LS3
4/08/10
2.142
8.597 @ 86.52 MPH
13.082 @ 111.49 MPH
351
23
Will69camaro
LS3
10/18/09
2.068
8.548 @ 84.65 MPH
13.090 @ 109.70 MPH
97
24
1badbish
L99
3/13/11
2.019
8.494 @ 84.62 MPH
13.102 @ 107.23 MPH
809
25
Malice
LS3
11/15/09
1.997
8.504 @ 83.57 MPH
13.107 @ 107.64 MPH
145
26
sschevybear11
LS3
6/25/11
2.117
8.609 @ 109.93 MPH
13.119 @ 109.93 MPH
954
27
Badbubba
LS3
10/16/10
2.20
8.69 @ 85.99 MPH
13.169 @ 112.64 MPH
637
28
gtwss
LS3
4/18/10
2.121
8.635 @ 85.00 MPH
13.175 @ 109.64 MPH
344
29
Dentyneice
LS3
11/27/09
2.156
8.638 @ 84.61 MPH
13.178 @ 109.77 MPH
171
30
mr anderson
LS3
9/24/10
2.171
8.622 @ 84.53 MPH
13.183 @ 108.94 MPH
582
31
acatlover13
L99
11/27/09
2.036
8.568 @ 84.05 MPH
13.201 @ 105.99 MPH
169
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The fastest bone stock 5th gen so far that I know of is a 12.58 @ 110mph. We bought a SLP 2002 SS with a lid and Drag radials best time was a 12.98.
The fastest 4th gen was stock that I have seen was a 12.57.
Here is the bone stock Fast list from Camaro 5
Stock
NO Member Engine Date 60' 1/8 ET @ MPH 1/4 ET @ MPH Details
1
nhra stocker
LS3
3/7/10
1.972
8.195 @ 88.58 MPH
12.588 @ 110.30 MPH
263
2
2quick
LS3
1/10/10
1.955
8.204 @ 88.05 MPH
12.615 @ 111.60 MPH
188
3
blufin
LS3
1/12/10
1.932
8.165 @ 86.52 MPH
12.618 @ 110.75 MPH
780
4
02Pewtersix
LS3
10/30/10
2.03
8.317 @ 88.34 MPH
12.710 @ 111.80 MPH
672
5
Monte
LS3
4/24/10
2.012
8.329 @ 87.11 MPH
12.775 @ 110.98 MPH
410
6
b20
LS3
11/15/09
1.936
8.326 @ 85.02 MPH
12.811 @ 108.73MPH
3
7
376Camaro
LS3
7/3/10
2.163
8.438 @ 87.69 MPH
12.831 @ 113.27 MPH
502
8
Toyaholic
LS3
4/13/11
2.017
8.392 @ 86.35 MPH
12.864 @ 110.91 MPH
821
9
8secpumpgasdad
L99
3/8/10
1.9059
8.321 @ 85.54 MPH
12.868 @ 108.7 MPH
270
10
speedy6963
LS3
7/17/09
2.046
8.409 @ 86.59 MPH
12.874 @ 109.08 MPH
10
11
jrrod6410
LS3
12/19/09
2.023
8.399 @ 86.96 MPH
12.903 @ 109.85 MPH
790
12
hysonmb
LS3
4/30/11
2.102
8.484 @ 86.04 MPH
12.970 @ 109.51 MPH
892
13
8ty8 ls1
L99
10/20/09
1.923
8.385 @ 83.54 MPH
12.971 @ 107.61 MPH
99
14
1stGM
L99
11/29/09
1.935
8.399 @ 85.09 MPH
12.985 @ 107.34 MPH
159
15
shadow09
LS3
10/30/10
2.10
8.536 @ 85.75 MPH
13.010 @ 110.73 MPH
671
16
Evowake
LS3
5/28/10
2.109
8.563 @ 86.54 MPH
13.013 @ 110.84 MPH
543
17
SSmokey
LS3
1/20/10
2.106
8.559 @ 85.88 MPH
13.040 @ 110.80 MPH
202
18
Eric Fischer
LS3
4/22/11
1.997
8.475 @ 84.98 MPH
13.050 @ 106.87 MPH
886
19
blue-bayou
LS3
6/24/11
1.936
8.491 @ 84.18 MPH
13.061 @ 108.69 MPH
958
20
NineBall
LS3
7/13/09
2.057
8.512 @ 85.13 MPH
13.070 @ 109.07 MPH
9
21
Kathy63
LS3
7/26/09
1.892
8.439 @ 83.76 MPH
13.075 @ 105.84 MPH
210
22
Jorux
LS3
4/08/10
2.142
8.597 @ 86.52 MPH
13.082 @ 111.49 MPH
351
23
Will69camaro
LS3
10/18/09
2.068
8.548 @ 84.65 MPH
13.090 @ 109.70 MPH
97
24
1badbish
L99
3/13/11
2.019
8.494 @ 84.62 MPH
13.102 @ 107.23 MPH
809
25
Malice
LS3
11/15/09
1.997
8.504 @ 83.57 MPH
13.107 @ 107.64 MPH
145
26
sschevybear11
LS3
6/25/11
2.117
8.609 @ 109.93 MPH
13.119 @ 109.93 MPH
954
27
Badbubba
LS3
10/16/10
2.20
8.69 @ 85.99 MPH
13.169 @ 112.64 MPH
637
28
gtwss
LS3
4/18/10
2.121
8.635 @ 85.00 MPH
13.175 @ 109.64 MPH
344
29
Dentyneice
LS3
11/27/09
2.156
8.638 @ 84.61 MPH
13.178 @ 109.77 MPH
171
30
mr anderson
LS3
9/24/10
2.171
8.622 @ 84.53 MPH
13.183 @ 108.94 MPH
582
31
acatlover13
L99
11/27/09
2.036
8.568 @ 84.05 MPH
13.201 @ 105.99 MPH
169
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Guys complaining about blind spots in a hotrod.... I hear there is a Tampax dispenser option available.
Viper coupe has way worse blind spots than my Camaro, but I'm not gonna cry about that.
5th gens do everything better than a 4th gen, when comparing stock vs stock. They are bigger, but they still perform identical to a 4th gen. They are just a lot better car inside/out. Some don't like the appearance, but looks are subjective/opinion.
Viper coupe has way worse blind spots than my Camaro, but I'm not gonna cry about that.
5th gens do everything better than a 4th gen, when comparing stock vs stock. They are bigger, but they still perform identical to a 4th gen. They are just a lot better car inside/out. Some don't like the appearance, but looks are subjective/opinion.
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Guys complaining about blind spots in a hotrod.... I hear there is a Tampax dispenser option available.
Viper coupe has way worse blind spots than my Camaro, but I'm not gonna cry about that.
5th gens do everything better than a 4th gen, when comparing stock vs stock. They are bigger, but they still perform identical to a 4th gen. They are just a lot better car inside/out. Some don't like the appearance, but looks are subjective/opinion.
Viper coupe has way worse blind spots than my Camaro, but I'm not gonna cry about that.
5th gens do everything better than a 4th gen, when comparing stock vs stock. They are bigger, but they still perform identical to a 4th gen. They are just a lot better car inside/out. Some don't like the appearance, but looks are subjective/opinion.
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Unless your CTS is modded you won't be beating a 2010 Mustang GT.
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SLV WS6, my '10 coupe went 13.0 bone stock. In better weather, I'm sure 12.8-12.9 would have been possible. They only use 3 gears going down the track, pretty easy to run them stock. The main limitation is the 275 wide Pirelli tires, which aren't too good at the track.
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Nowadays, if you want a payment to resemble even close to what a new car payment was back in 2001-2002, your looking at having to throw down at least 10K-15K for a down payment.
Honestly, I couldn't stomach a grand a month for a new Camaro. They are great cars, but not 1K a month great, especially in this economy.
That's why I love my little ES300. Its indestructible and cheap to operate.
Honestly, I couldn't stomach a grand a month for a new Camaro. They are great cars, but not 1K a month great, especially in this economy.
That's why I love my little ES300. Its indestructible and cheap to operate.
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Starting to sound like some good info. Might be interested in buying a 2010 -2012 Camaro SS soon.
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No kidding. My wife daily drives the '11 Camaro convertible, and it has an even smaller rear window and huge C-pillars. It is called learning how to use mirrors properly. If you set them correctly, you won't have blind spots. Here is a hint, if you can see any part of your own vehicle in the side mirrors, they are set WRONG.
Never any issues with blind spots in my car. Just seems that someone here always has to find something to bitch about. Reminds me of the lt1 guys hating on ls motors when they came out.
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SLV WS6, my '10 coupe went 13.0 bone stock. In better weather, I'm sure 12.8-12.9 would have been possible. They only use 3 gears going down the track, pretty easy to run them stock. The main limitation is the 275 wide Pirelli tires, which aren't too good at the track.
Never any issues with blind spots in my car. Just seems that someone here always has to find something to bitch about. Reminds me of the lt1 guys hating on ls motors when they came out.
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SLV WS6, my '10 coupe went 13.0 bone stock. In better weather, I'm sure 12.8-12.9 would have been possible. They only use 3 gears going down the track, pretty easy to run them stock. The main limitation is the 275 wide Pirelli tires, which aren't too good at the track.
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It is a downgrade in luxury and safety **** that I dont want in my car. If they made the 5th gen without 27 airbags, 20" wheels, 14" brakes, IRS, and dropped some weight it would be a great car. Tell me why my CTS comes stock with aluminum control arms and better suspenion then GMs 2nd tier performance car. The camaro gets the same heavy stamped **** quality? GTFO GM. that should be the other way around.
Oh and limp dick the auto with less hp? Thanks.
I could give a **** about blind spots, the car just fails as a performance car for the $$$.
5 years down the road, Im sure they will seem like a better bargin.
Oh and limp dick the auto with less hp? Thanks.
I could give a **** about blind spots, the car just fails as a performance car for the $$$.
5 years down the road, Im sure they will seem like a better bargin.
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I had a 2008 CTS when they first came out. We paid $45K for it. With a 304hp V6. Your CTS has aluminum suspension parts because it lacks the LS3 under the hood, and costs more than a Camaro does when equipped with identical engines. The V6 Camaros with the same 3.6L engine are in the mid-$20K range. Your CTS is a good $10-15K more car.
I agree the Camaro should be lighter, but some of you guys make it sound like 12.9s stock is slow for $33K brand new. With the Brembo brakes, independent axle, MUCH better interior, LS3, dual exhaust, HID headlights, factory cowl hood, Bluetooth, etc.... all of which are better than the 4th gen.
Keep in mind that loaded WS6's and SS's back when they were brand new were also in the $28-32K range new. That was over 10 years ago now. If anything, that makes the current Camaro SS an even better value than the 4th gen was at it's time.
I agree the Camaro should be lighter, but some of you guys make it sound like 12.9s stock is slow for $33K brand new. With the Brembo brakes, independent axle, MUCH better interior, LS3, dual exhaust, HID headlights, factory cowl hood, Bluetooth, etc.... all of which are better than the 4th gen.
Keep in mind that loaded WS6's and SS's back when they were brand new were also in the $28-32K range new. That was over 10 years ago now. If anything, that makes the current Camaro SS an even better value than the 4th gen was at it's time.