HTX

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Thanks. I just spit Dr Pepper all over my phone.

99 DUKE'Z 28

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Eh, if that was the case...well then we wouldn't have anyone to argue with!! I've noticed his arrogant posts and what not on this site. Doesn't amaze me he's in favor of Perry. Can't fix dumb these days.

And you're absolutely right, it's people like HTX that get even bigger numnuts than themselves into office that make our economic status worse than when they were elected in.

99 DUKE'Z 28

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I can understand your thinking on this. And you're right. But with so much negative goin on in our country compared to the positive. People are getting very worried about what tomorrow brings for us. Many believe there will be another recession. If we don't do something radical, I believe we will.

I do not care if RP is old, or some thinking votes to him will only help the Dems. I'm not much into faith or prayer, but I have faith,and I do pray that RP gets into office. He seems to me the only one with solid plans to "fix" this country. Perry is/has/and always will be in it for the cha-ching...

Slow LSX

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You sure it was not your load from watching Rick Perry suck everyone off that supports his f**ked up self?

You do realize over 51% of donations Ron Paul recieved during his 08 campaign was from the military? They know what Ron Paul stands for and believe in his beliefs and principles like they are there own. And America has always trusted the military over anything that has to do with government. But its cool I guess you just LOVE to see our troops put foot and *** for a government that ***** on them day in and day out. Only to go to some foregin land for a unjust war just to keep the American dollar alive.
Yeah I know who this troll is. An unamerican ****.

HTX

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Wow. So far I am an arrogant, idiotic, un american, numnutted, immigrant that watches gay ****. Im really liking my reputation these days. Lmao.

This is good ****. Keep it coming!

Slow LSX

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See just in 5 post from me and your already seeing your true self. And I have not even begun.

Nine Ball

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LOL @ this thread. Everyone has their favorite candidate(s), but that doesn't mean you can overcome the sheer masses of idiots that vote these other idiots into office. At the very best, you just hope that your favorite candidate happens to be the favorite of these masses, and is lucky enough to win an election.

No sense bitching and arguing about it. We may think we are correct, and everyone else is wrong, but that doesn't win elections. Instead of wasting time arguing about things beyond your control, go use this time to do something productive and figure out how to improve your own situation or income. Be in control of your own destiny, don't sit around and hope that politicians will look after your best interests. Once in office, they only care about themselves and being re-elected.

Jake_the_Snake

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i like ron paul a lot, but you would be very naive to think he can win. same with cain. same with bachmann, huntsman, etc etc. in my opinion, a candidate needs a lot more than just principles to win. you need name recognition, for starters. you ask some guy on the street who ron paul is, chances are he's not gonna know unless he's from texas. you ask the same guy about rick perry, chances are he's at least heard of him. i think perry, gingrich, and romney are the only candidates that have this sort of recognition and therefore a better chance at winning against obama.


that's why i support perry. anyone who gives credence to slow lsx's advice and becomes more informed on the candidates will find that rick perry really isnt all that bad. people who criticize him always spit out the same 3 or 4 things that always come up, and in his case i think his good points outweigh the bad. plus i cant wait for him to say this to obama:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4tWZNxnABk

rabiddog

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I like this post. The way it reads to me is that they are all idiots just hope your idiot gets elected.

I am all for looking out for your own and being in control of your own destiny(met her once at the titty bar) but in the process of controlling your own you have to make sure a outside source doesn't make what you worked for to gain worth nothing and that is the current direction we are heading. Not positive but I am pretty sure Obama was looking at inflation as a way to pay off the debt. That would be a great way to get out of det but it is going to tank your economy in the process. I like Ron Paul myself and will probably end up voting his way but Perry isn't the devil either.

I am not here to argue anything I just think that attention needs to be made and to try and put someone in office that is going to make some major cuts on a lot of the originally "temporary" plans that people are still taking advantage of.

I also agree with your last line 100%. Which is why if you go into politics you should have to be forced out of the stock market and anything that you can effect with your rulings. When your stocks take a tank and you can vote on a bill to turn them around is not right. You start to look at your own pockets and not what is good for the future.

rabiddog

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If you asked someone who Obama was 1 year before the election nobody new who he was. That didn't matter a lot of money spent on advertising, speaking skills, and a few other things are what got him elected.

Jake_the_Snake

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the fact that george bush and the republican party were so unpopular at the time, the fact that he had a virtual monopoly on media attention due to his being a member of the democratic party, the fact that he was black, and the fact that he had very talented speech writers helped him win the election

i dont think ron paul has any of these advantages

99 DUKE'Z 28

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Ding ding ding. Hence why I am against HTX views. I don't think he's a bad guy lol, but exactly as you said. With good campaigning like Obama, Ron has a damned good chance. I think he's doing great so far!

99 DUKE'Z 28

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Ummm, I'm pretty sure Obamas followers are at a dismal low...

Jake_the_Snake

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they're low, but not george bush low. he still has approval from the majority of the democratic party

Bluestreak

True. Ron Paul will become another Ralph Nader, diverting votes from candidates who have a true chance at election. Paul is also far too much of an isolationist; while I'd love to withdraw from the world, get our troops back on US soil, and concentrate solely on the problems we have here in the USA, that's just not an option. Clinton was lax on his foreign policy and that loose attitude precipitated the rise of terrorism and 9/11. We can't ignore the world lest we suffer another tragedy.

Clinton was not a great president, but he was a good one. He simply had the good fortune of being president during the rise of technologies (Internet and medical advances) in a post-recession US economy following Bush Sr.'s presidency. Fact is, Clinton weakened the US by cutting defense spending, but he also had the country in the black throughout most of his terms. He was good at business but less than stellar at protecting US interests abroad. Give and take. I'd rather the budget be balanced and we live within our means, but I also don't want to see the country take a hit for it. It's a true Catch 22.

Romney is, IMO, the best of the candidates for 2012. Plain and simple, we need a business man in charge, and Romney has a successful background in management, investing, and rehabilitating ailing corporations. In simple terms, the USA is an ailing business in need of rehab. Romney has the experience, a good track record as governor, and he should get the job IMO. If he gets the Republican nod, he's getting my vote.

And that's a good thing. The less chance he has of re-election, the better off we'll all be. Obama was a political fashion statement elected indulgently by the ignorant youth and minorities of this country to prove we were beyond racial issues when it came to electing our leaders. And we are beyond those things, but Obama was not capable of the things he promised. His naivete and his arrogance have been staggering. His lack of leadership abilities and inability to deliver campaign promises are also gigantic issues that his followers cannot ignore, though they seem to be. The only "change" he's brought has been bad. His health care bill? What an outrage. At a time when America was losing jobs at a record pace, he was busy trying to shove a socialist medical policy down our throats that will only cost more jobs - businesses will cut workers to protect themselves from the costs of Obama's medical plan. How do I know this? I own a business. I know. I can't afford his medical plan, so I'll cut jobs. Period, end of sentence.

Obama should have been trying to create jobs (there are now 7 million fewer jobs in the US than when he took office in 2009) - he should not have been wasting his political street credibility to create a useless medical plan that will hopefully be repealed the instant he's forced out of office in 2012 (I hope).

We are in deep doggie-doo, folks. The first step is getting the current President OUT... and a good business leader IN. The question now is... can we hang on for another 16 months before Obama's gone?

1slow01Z71

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Bluestreak, while I agree with a lot you said the simple fact that he bawically forced mortgage companies to make sub-prime loans and tanked our economy when the jackasses that couldn't afford their house to begin with defaulted. THAT is why we are so bad off, of course there are other factors but that imo is 75% of the current problem with our economy. Everyone knows home ownership is the basis for our economy. Homes create jobs and when the housing market is stagnant or having a reversion(like now) you have a recession. There is a surplus of homes and the banks are drowning in that debt. I personally don't mind it all that much since I've been fairly frugal with my money and was able to buy a lot more house than I'd ever be able to normally afford at an awesome interest rate

cambirdracing

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IBL

President Obama walks into the Bank of America to cash a check.

As he approaches the cashier, he says "Good morning Ma'am, could you please cash this check for me?"

Cashier: "It would be my pleasure sir. Could you please show me your ID?"

Obama: "Truthfully, I did not bring my ID with me, as I didn't think there was any need to. I am President Barrack Obama, the president of the United States of America!!!!"

Cashier: "Yes sir, I know who you are, but with all the regulations, monitoring, of the banks because of imposters and forgers, etc., I must insist on seeing an ID."

Obama: "Just ask anyone here at the bank who I am and they will tell you. Everybody knows who I am."

Cashier: "I am sorry Mr. President, but these are the bank rules and I must follow them."

Obama: "I am urging you, to please cash this check."

Cashier: "Look Mr. President, this is what we can do: One day Tiger Woods came into the bank without an ID. To prove he was Tiger Woods, he pulled out his putting iron and made a beautiful shot across the bank into a cup.

With that shot we knew him to be Tiger Woods, and cashed his check.

Another time, Andre Agassi came in without an ID. He pulled out his tennis racquet and made a fabulous shot, whereas the tennis ball landed in my cup. With that spectacular shot we cashed his check.

So, Mr. President, what special talent do you possess to prove that it is you, and only you, as the President of the United States?"

Obama stood there thinking, and thinking, and finally says: "Honestly, there is nothing that comes to my mind. I can't think of a single thing. I really have no talent"

Cashier: "Will that be large or small bills, Mr. President?"


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Barack Obama got out of the shower and was drying off when he looked in the mirror and noticed that he was white from the neck to the top of his head.





In a sheer panic and fearing he was turning white all over, he called his doctor and told him what had happened.

The doctor advised him to come to his office immediately.

After an examination, the doctor mixed a concoction of brown liquid, gave it to Barack, and told him to drink it all.

Barack drank the concoction and said, "That tasted like bull$#!t!"

"It was." the doctor replied, "You were a quart low."

Bluestreak

I have a big opinion on the housing crisis. I'm a civil engineer. In 24 months in '03/'04, I personally oversaw 4,400 homes through construction. There were 20 other engineers at my firm, churning out homes at an alarming rate - and we were one of dozens of firms working night and day to build homes, which we couldn't do fast enough! Hindsight being 20/20, we should have known better - and the banks/lenders should have been wiser, too. But... business was good, money was plentiful... we were all greedy, and we all share some of the blame. Using our self-imposed blinders in good economic times is no excuse.

I agree the housing is a large portion of our current crisis, but that is the one thing that was truly NOT Obama's fault (and for me to say something nice about Obama, it's got to be true!). It was pre-Obama administration decisions in the financial community (dating back to the housing boom's roots in 2001/02) that caused the financial collapse. Interest-only mortgages, adjustable rate mortgages that lenders didn't understand, corrupt practices in lending, second mortgages on homes that were over-appraised to obtain those mortgages, and falsification of documentation led to millions of home loans to people who didn't have the long-term ability to service the real estate loans they obtained... it was fake money, created on paper (and that's what we're seeing disappear as the financial markets deflate - the "fake" money they created is going away!). Late in the housing craze, people were buying 3 bed/2 bath houses for $250k - absurdly high prices. Luxury homes used to cost $250k - not starter homes, and luxury homes were selling for $400k+, causing middle income families to find themselves suddenly upside-down after the crash, owning homes they shouldn't have owned in the first place. Almost a full third of the country is in this predicament currently.

I'm debt-free now... so I share your wise frugality. The banks, who caused this crisis, should have been allowed to fail. This is where Obama made his mistake - using Federal funds to prop up corrupt financial institutions who made the bad business decisions. They should have failed and let the market reset itself naturally, but that's not what Democrats do. They are socialists, Obama especially, and he forced the gov't to spend money in places they shouldn't have. Again, he should have been concentrating on creating jobs, which were evaporating by the hundreds of thousands while Obama mistakenly put his attention elsewhere.

Where to go from here? If I had that answer, I'd be running myself. That's why I want a tried-and-true businessman in the White House come January 2013.

1slow01Z71

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Should've clarified, I was speaking in reference to Clinton. It was his administration and democratic congress that passed the housing bill. I don't blame Obama for the housing crash, just wasting trillions of dollars. He should've let Chrysler and GM fail too as much as it hurts me to say that.

Of topic, I'm a civil too, but in commercial not residential

Slow LSX

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You guys are right Mitt Romney is the man for the job. Polished, professional, good speaker. That's what America needs another corporate loving C**k sucker that cares only about $$$. And lets not forget who just LOVES Mitt Romney.....



I had to do a screen shot b/c Romney had his people tell CNS to take the article down. How convenient. But luckly Google has that cached program now that stores everything out there, pretty scary as well but that's another subject.

Mitt Romney is just a slick salesmen, just do some research on Mass. health care law and see why its a complete failure. I guess 100 years of BS is not enough for some of you to wake up.