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Old 07-24-2012, 07:15 PM
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Wow, wonder how long before state inspection goes this route to fail cars that have things like rear o2's deleted so the SES won't come on. I know a car shouldn't pass a visual with CATS removed but alot of people don't look.
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I doubt they ever will. Inspection stations dont care what kind of power the car is putting out or whether or not its been geared. As long as it passes the sniffer test and doesnt show any CEL's it should pass.
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Originally Posted by ultradriver10000
I got an Airaid intake because they have a sale going on right now with $50 back. If you order it from AJusa its $220 shipped minus the $50 back its only $170.
Let me know how you like it. Looks like its just an airbox.
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Originally Posted by A-Dub
Let me know how you like it. Looks like its just an airbox.
That is all it really is. I'll see if it makes a difference.

As far as the warranty goes I've had modified cars before that were fine going back to the dealer. I've already stated that on average we do 1 to 1.3 million dollars in business per year with one dealer so I HIGHLY doubt they won't honor my warranty for any issues. Well if they don't want the business they can screw me out of a $5K engine lol. Good business move there.

Intake should be in today, I'll try to get out to Baytown this weekend for some more results.
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Originally Posted by ultradriver10000
That is all it really is. I'll see if it makes a difference.

As far as the warranty goes I've had modified cars before that were fine going back to the dealer. I've already stated that on average we do 1 to 1.3 million dollars in business per year with one dealer so I HIGHLY doubt they won't honor my warranty for any issues. Well if they don't want the business they can screw me out of a $5K engine lol. Good business move there.

Intake should be in today, I'll try to get out to Baytown this weekend for some more results.


Not trying to be a dick. But customers like you are the soul reason im trying to get out of this industry.
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I heard the new Fords have a heated tailgate?

Thats a great mod for the winter when it wont start and you have to push it back to the dealer!

Whats with the red stripe on the seat? You get free beer for showing that? New vehicles are great, I just bought my wife a new Tahoe and so to each his own. But to me there is nothing nice looking about your truck. For the record I think the Mustangs are great looking cars but the truck is as ugly as a mud fence.

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Originally Posted by AnnivSS
Not trying to be a dick. But customers like you are the soul reason im trying to get out of this industry.
Seriously? So you don't think a loyal customer who spends millions of dollars with you as a single sales man should get more leniency then Joe blow beating you up for a single sale? I must be a real horrible customer when I call and ask for 15 band new trucks and cut you a check for them and you never hear from me again. I'd never want you as my contact point so do everyone a favor and get out of the business. Being in a company that sells equipment in the oil field we go out of our way, going above and beyond what is reasonable to keep customers and to keep them happy for less. That's the exact type of attitude that ruins customer service/relations. -Not trying to be a dick either. ;-)

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I heard the new Fords have a heated tailgate?

Thats a great mod for the winter when it wont start and you have to push it back to the dealer!

Whats with the red stripe on the seat? You get free beer for showing that? New vehicles are great, I just bought my wife a new Tahoe and so to each his own. But to me there is nothing nice looking about your truck. For the record I think the Mustangs are great looking cars but the truck is as ugly as a mud fence.

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Different strokes for different folks. I really like the truck, both aesthetically and mechanically. Maybe if GM would go ahead and update their truck design they introduced in 2007 and the engines they introduced in 1997 I'd be more interested in a new one. I'm not here to bash or give props to any one car company trust me. I've been a loyal GM fan since I was a kid, but the new GM trucks just aren't making the grade. I also currently own a corvette with a 418 forged ls3, a ws6 with a 408, and my wife's loaded crew cab vmaxx sierra with a 4000 stall and other goodies.

This F150 is just killing it. Come check out the interior, the fit and finish and the performance of this truck and tell me it isn't the best. This is coming from a GM guy too!! lol
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Originally Posted by ultradriver10000

This F150 is just killing it. Come check out the interior, the fit and finish and the performance of this truck and tell me it isn't the best. This is coming from a GM guy too!! lol
I agree. I would much rather have a GM and I have owned the current generation Silverado. The new F150 is better truck. Not my favorite in the looks dept, but you know what they sold 300,000 of them last month, so obviously the buying public is not too concerned. And yes that is more units than Chevy and GMC combined. I have big hopes for the '14 Silverado, but it will have to impress me for sure.
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Originally Posted by ultradriver10000
Seriously? So you don't think a loyal customer who spends millions of dollars with you as a single sales man should get more leniency then Joe blow beating you up for a single sale? I must be a real horrible customer when I call and ask for 15 band new trucks and cut you a check for them and you never hear from me again. I'd never want you as my contact point so do everyone a favor and get out of the business. Being in a company that sells equipment in the oil field we go out of our way, going above and beyond what is reasonable to keep customers and to keep them happy for less. That's the exact type of attitude that ruins customer service/relations. -Not trying to be a dick either. ;-)


Yes, seriously. You come in to a dealership and buy a truck, I dont really care if you buy one or 1500 to be honest, and sign paperwork saying you understand the implied warranty on the vehicle (trust me, its in the documentation) then modify the truck and expect it to be fixed at no cost to you? Call me crazy but I treat every single one of my customers the EXACT same regardless of financial status or how many vehicles they've bought. Now, if you bought the truck, modified it and broke it. Then you came in and said "Hey man, i've bought a couple hundred thousand in vehicles from you guys and this is the first issue like this i've had, can you help me out?" Then I would be willing to work with you on the cost of labor and parts to fix the truck. The last dealership I worked for ended up going under and getting sued by Ford for warranty fraud for trying to help out their good fleet customers. They got to a point where they couldnt afford to absorb the cost of the repairs so they start forging warranty paperwork and lieing to Ford about it. Now they have 175+ employees looking for work and owe Ford over $750,000 in fraudulent warranty payouts. And to be perfectly honest in my mind if you can afford to buy as many vehicles as you say you do then you can afford to fix it when you break the warranty agreement and the truck fails. I'd rather spend my time helping out the single mom whos trying to get the tranmission put back in her 14 year old escort so she can get her kids to school than help the guy in the booming oil business fix his play truck because he broke it.

And to be honest, if you submitted a warranty claim and Ford accidentally found those time slips you posted admitting to tracking the truck. Well,they could void your warranty there as well.

Simple fact is, if you dont want to pay to fix your new truck if it breaks, dont modify it.
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Less fighting more racing, I'm done with the drama.

Installed the intake tonight, picking up the mufflers for the custom exhaust tomorrow. Should be at the track this weekend for more numbers. :-)
Old 07-25-2012, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnivSS
I doubt they ever will. Inspection stations dont care what kind of power the car is putting out or whether or not its been geared. As long as it passes the sniffer test and doesnt show any CEL's it should pass.
There is no sniffer test here for 96 and newer vehicles(OBD II) I wasn't referring to power or gearing either. I was talking about "fooling" the computer so it doesn't realize emissions equipment has been removed/modified. If inspection stations were to use similar technology as Ford is using where if they plugged the vehicle up as they do every time for an inspection it would recognize the tune or deletion of certain parameters and immediately fail the vehicle.
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It would be so hard for the government to do that since ever car has a different ecu. The Odbii checks meet certain out puts set up by the government, but all internal programming is unique to each manufacturer and more specifically each model.
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I respect your refusal to admit to the trucks questionable esthetics. I will also aggree with you with the GM trucks not looking or performing any better.

I was ready for a new truck in '07 when GM came out with what has to be (in my opinion) the uggliest truck they have ever built. So I bought a truck with the body lines I like and sunk some cash into it instead. Some people like it, some people despize it. But as I am sure you will aggree, looks are in the eyes of the beholder and you customize to your taste and not everyone elses.

GM, Ford & Dodge as well as Toyota & Nissan build these uggly *** huge front nose/grill trucks that try and mimic a Peterbuilt or Kenworth diesel truck. For some reason they seem to think we all wanrt to be "Truckers" and dress accordingly.

Give me an aerodynamic front end with clean lines, less attcahments and more paint. If I could take a SUburban and rip out the rear 6 seats and put in a truck bed I would do it. That would be a smok'n ride!!

Oh well, enjoy your truck, let us know how it runs on the track.

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Old 07-26-2012, 07:44 AM
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Nice truck, I bought a King Ranch a few months ago. I got the 5.0L but wished I would have got the ecoboost now. I just didnt trust it towing, but so far people have had great results. Good thing I just leased the truck. I will get a F-250 when my lease is done then I wont have to worry about towing anything.
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I just really hate all the fake chrome car companies have been adding to the front of trucks lately. Its like they think plastic chrome is a godsend. BARF

My favorite older truck style is probably the '58 with dual headlights, then 69-70 style gm and the 80s square body. For the newer trucks I love the newer Tahoe front end and then it would be a tie for the 99-03 and the cat eye style.
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Originally Posted by daniel044
Nice truck, I bought a King Ranch a few months ago. I got the 5.0L but wished I would have got the ecoboost now. I just didnt trust it towing, but so far people have had great results. Good thing I just leased the truck. I will get a F-250 when my lease is done then I wont have to worry about towing anything.
Power wise, the engine tows great. It behaves like a diesel. Towing mileage out of the box was awful. As low as 11mpg towing a couple thousand lbs, but that has improved greatly with break in. The Ford manual says full mpg break in takes 10000 miles. My empty mileage hasn't changed, but my towing mileage has steadily improved. Getting 14-16mpg pulling my boat now depending on conditions.
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Originally Posted by billybadd
What kind of fuel economy while towing?
I averaged 14.5-15mpg while towing through the hills from Columbus, Tx to Lake Buchanan (north of austin). And that was doing 75 the whole way. Truck had 4 passengers, bed full of luggage and boat accessories and the 20 foot bowrider in tow. My truck is the FX4 with 3.73s
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Originally Posted by LS1powerhouse02
I averaged 14.5-15mpg while towing through the hills from Columbus, Tx to Lake Buchanan (north of austin). And that was doing 75 the whole way. Truck had 4 passengers, bed full of luggage and boat accessories and the 20 foot bowrider in tow. My truck is the FX4 with 3.73s
Damn.... Much better then mine gets...

I got 11.5 mpg towing this vvv to Dallas from south of Houston, running 70 mph....Just the empty trailer was like 13.5 mpg. Same drive with no trailer is 15.5 mpg. All hand calculated.

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I agree with the comments made about the Ford interiors... I have always been a GM guy but honestly, GMs interiors suck....every last one of them... Even the new Vettes interiors are cheesy for a $60k car. The GM truck interiors just looked like a plain jane work truck interior to me.... And for $45k for a truck, I expected a lot more luxury/sport/gizmos....I am also not that big on the new GM (07 and up) body style... I prefered the classic body style but...

The Ford truck interiors are just awesome and that is what really swayed me to look seriously at Ford trucks...



I am 98% happy with my F150, the other 2% is for the missing fuel economy I am not getting but.... All in all, I love the truck and its power.


OP, keep me posted on your track numbers, I wanted to go to RPR this Friday and run mine as well but I have other engagements pending.
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Originally Posted by ajrothm
Damn.... Much better then mine gets...

I got 11.5 mpg towing this vvv to Dallas from south of Houston, running 70 mph....Just the empty trailer was like 13.5 mpg. Same drive with no trailer is 15.5 mpg. All hand calculated.

Hmmmm.....I'm betting most of that is from your wheel/tire combo. I am still on stock 20s with Pirellis. Without a trailer at 70mph I average around 17.5-18.5. For about a week I drove back and forth from Columbus to Houston (70 miles each way) and drove like an old lady. I set my cruise at 65mph and was able to get 21.4mpg average for the week.

However let it be known that the truck does not see that MPG very often. The sound of the turbos and the way the power comes on is entirely too tempting.



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