wat is up with the chick fila
08-06-2012, 05:53 PM
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What did Christ himself do with the money changers in the temple? Should he have gone along with it in the name of "loving his neighbors", or is this an example that we can love our fellow man, disagree with some of their choices and yes even assert our beliefs in life. Its like raising kids. You can love them and still be pissed off and disappointed in something they've done. Just because a Christian doesn't agree with homosexuality doesn't mean they hate the person, nor does it mean they can't stand up for their beliefs and vote their conscience either.
I'm convinced that if a muslim would have said it, the liberals wouldn't care.
There is bigotry in the US and it is against conservatives and Christians. We can't speak our minds without someone somewhere taking offense. I remember the democratic socialists claiming everyone who doesn't agree with Nobama is a racist. They have and still refer to the Tea Partiers as racists. This attack on CFA is no different. From what I've seen on the left, its all about freedom of speech for me and not for thee.
I also think that if the gays would call it something besides marriage, say domestic partner, most Christians wouldn't care. I also think we as a people have much more pressing issues and see the way that gay marriage has been pushed up front as a diversion tactic so we lose focus on the more difficult issues.
I'm convinced that if a muslim would have said it, the liberals wouldn't care.
There is bigotry in the US and it is against conservatives and Christians. We can't speak our minds without someone somewhere taking offense. I remember the democratic socialists claiming everyone who doesn't agree with Nobama is a racist. They have and still refer to the Tea Partiers as racists. This attack on CFA is no different. From what I've seen on the left, its all about freedom of speech for me and not for thee.
I also think that if the gays would call it something besides marriage, say domestic partner, most Christians wouldn't care. I also think we as a people have much more pressing issues and see the way that gay marriage has been pushed up front as a diversion tactic so we lose focus on the more difficult issues.
08-06-2012, 09:06 PM
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What I don't understand is, if people don't like what this man said, why don't they just avoid his business? It seems pretty simple to me. I find it interesting, however, that the corporation Target has donated millions of dollars to anti-gay organizations, but I don't see anyone talking about them or staging protests against them.
Even more interesting to me, specific to the city of Chicago is that there are already Chic-fil-a restaurants operating within the city. For Rahm Emanuel to come out and say the corporation does not share in "Chicago values" is a joke. Chicago values REVENUE (by means of corruption). If Chicago had some higher moral code, they would not have allowed Target to open up a new store Downtown Chicago in the historic Marshall Fields building due to Target's "political stance" on this particular issue.
In the end, the only thing this attention is doing is bringing free publicity and marketing of Chic-fil-a to areas that they are not currently operating. If you didn't know who the restaurants were before, I bet you do now.
Even more interesting to me, specific to the city of Chicago is that there are already Chic-fil-a restaurants operating within the city. For Rahm Emanuel to come out and say the corporation does not share in "Chicago values" is a joke. Chicago values REVENUE (by means of corruption). If Chicago had some higher moral code, they would not have allowed Target to open up a new store Downtown Chicago in the historic Marshall Fields building due to Target's "political stance" on this particular issue.
In the end, the only thing this attention is doing is bringing free publicity and marketing of Chic-fil-a to areas that they are not currently operating. If you didn't know who the restaurants were before, I bet you do now.
08-06-2012, 11:42 PM
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Oh jesus lol thats what all the noise is about. Well honestly i care less what people belive,how they live, whom they worship, whom they lay down with, whom they marry. America is eating its ownself over dumb stuff. Why is it such a problem when somebody uses freedom of speech. Kanya west said Bush dont care about black people. Why in the hell are people still buying his albums? Gays feel they have no rights what so ever, But in retrospec they have the same rights as straight people. I dont see gays using differant bathrooms, living in a closed housing area, driving only in the right lane lol. Its the freedom us as Americans has that is killing us. Goverment is just involved in too much of our personal lives. If your a member of our goverment you work for the people. Race religion or creed you represent the people. We as a country have lost that. Look at what the goverment is trying to do to our wemen. Google wemen rights in heath care. We got people shooting people for no reason, goverment reps wasting our money on bullsh... Now we have gays mad at fast food chain really........ It should have been a problem if they posted sighns like ( Take your faggoty *** to the back and place your order) Or sighn on a restroom door with two males holding hands. Man really lol.... I wonder what will happen when we have a Gay pres....
08-07-2012, 07:54 AM
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Dixie Chicks say they don't like GW?
Burn their albums and boycot their concerts! MERICA!
Gays and gay rights activists boycot Christian run Chick Fil A because they disagree with what the CEO said?
Silly *******! Get back in your evil sex dungeon.
I'm a Christian and lean heavily towards the Republican side, but let's not act like conservatives haven't tried to keep businesses down because they don't fall in line with their personal religious beliefs. The state of Texas can't even get a ******* casino because of the ultra-conservatives push for the "non-separation" of church and state.
Burn their albums and boycot their concerts! MERICA!
Gays and gay rights activists boycot Christian run Chick Fil A because they disagree with what the CEO said?
Silly *******! Get back in your evil sex dungeon.
I'm a Christian and lean heavily towards the Republican side, but let's not act like conservatives haven't tried to keep businesses down because they don't fall in line with their personal religious beliefs. The state of Texas can't even get a ******* casino because of the ultra-conservatives push for the "non-separation" of church and state.
08-07-2012, 08:51 AM
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I dont have a problem with them wanting to get married, but they need to deal with the stuff striaght people deal with. Divorce and common law marrage. Make them lose half or more of their stuff when they split up, along with legal fees, and all the time lost. Fair is fair, if they want the good stuff, they better deal with the downsides.
08-07-2012, 08:58 AM
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I'm a Christian and lean heavily towards the Republican side, but let's not act like conservatives haven't tried to keep businesses down because they don't fall in line with their personal religious beliefs. The state of Texas can't even get a ******* casino because of the ultra-conservatives push for the "non-separation" of church and state.
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08-07-2012, 09:26 AM
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Yes, lets not vote our conscience because church and state must be seperate. I What good does gambling do? People voted for the lotto in TX (or the Stupid Tax as I call it) to "fund schools," but our schools have been hurting for money and have been laying off teachers and other employees. I won't gamble, but if you want to play poker with friends or have a tournament, who cares. But casinos breed corruption and organized crime. Dang straight I'll vote them down.
By the way, organized crime has been flushed from casinos for years now. Going into a casino in Louisiana isn't exactly like going into The Tropicana Las Vegas in 1965.You missed the point of my post. The message of my post was:
Don't bitch and moan about gays boycotting a business when you would do the same thing.
Gays are boycotting Chick Fil A just like you would boycot a Casino.
I wonder if Chick Fil A's CEO had said he believes it's ok to beat your wife, and women and local governments around the country responded in the same way the gay community did, would you people be in here bashing? Afterall, the bible hints that beating your wife is justified. For some reason, I don't think this thread would be about defending one's "freedom of speech". It'd be about kicking a wifebeater's *** if you ever crossed paths with him.
Hell, I bet if the CEO of Cracker Barrel came out tomorrow and announced he/she was an athiest and stated "God does not exist", the south would explode and Cracker Barrel would be out of business by Thursday. I'd also bet the ensuing boycot/protest would turn a lot more violent than this Chick Fil A nonsense.
Like I said earlier in the thread. I support Chick Fil A's CEO's right to freedom of speech and I support the gay community's (and it's supporters) rights to boycot a business if they do not agree with the business or representitive of said business's beliefs or spoken words.
08-07-2012, 11:00 AM
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Yes, lets be like the Romans and worry about whats going down in the coliseum while our country falls apart.
And if you think there is no organized crime still in casinos, you must believe everything politicians tell you too. They're in on it.
And if you think there is no organized crime still in casinos, you must believe everything politicians tell you too. They're in on it.
08-07-2012, 02:36 PM
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Ross, man, you're the one missing the point! Where is anyone bitching about gays protesting, or rather, saying they shouldn't? If homosexuals want to boycott chickfila because of the companies stance, they are more than welcome to! That is their right, and I have no issue with it.
The problem lies in the government officials that off handedly threatened to use their influence to punish chickfila for exercising their right to free speech. The chickfila support day was about rallying around our liberties and supporting a business being browbeat by our government. IT WAS NOT ABOUT BEING ANTI GAY. That is what the left wants everyone to think so they can distract you from the real issue: the people running this nanny state want you to think how they think, and should be censored if you don't!
The problem lies in the government officials that off handedly threatened to use their influence to punish chickfila for exercising their right to free speech. The chickfila support day was about rallying around our liberties and supporting a business being browbeat by our government. IT WAS NOT ABOUT BEING ANTI GAY. That is what the left wants everyone to think so they can distract you from the real issue: the people running this nanny state want you to think how they think, and should be censored if you don't!
08-07-2012, 02:41 PM
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The problem lies in the government officials that off handedly threatened to use their influence to punish chickfila for exercising their right to free speech. The chickfila support day was about rallying around our liberties and supporting a business being browbeat by our government. IT WAS NOT ABOUT BEING ANTI GAY. That is what the left wants everyone to think so they can distract you from the real issue: the people running this nanny state want you to think how they think, and should be censored if you don't!
You seem to forget why gay marriage isn't allowed in most of this "free country"...because "government officials" outlaw it based on their own stupid religous beliefs.
Let's power behind the "freedom of speech" part, but forget about that whole "separation of church and state" mumbo jumbo.
08-07-2012, 03:24 PM
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I understand what it was about, bro! I already stated that multiple times in this thread.
You seem to forget why gay marriage isn't allowed in most of this "free country"...because "government officials" outlaw it based on their own stupid religous beliefs.
Let's power behind the "freedom of speech" part, but forget about that whole "separation of church and state" mumbo jumbo.
You seem to forget why gay marriage isn't allowed in most of this "free country"...because "government officials" outlaw it based on their own stupid religous beliefs.
Let's power behind the "freedom of speech" part, but forget about that whole "separation of church and state" mumbo jumbo.
And even your separation of church and state, the original intention was to prevent the state from corrupting the church, and a little bit the other way as well. It was never about keeping Christian values out of our government. But I digress, and don't want to get into that argument.
08-07-2012, 03:49 PM
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You raise an interesting debate, but that's going to be your argument? You're gonna shift focus to an issue that isn't allowed, mainly because the majority of this country doesn't want it, and ignore the fact that the government is trampling our rights? The ones guaranteed to EVERYONE?
I have no problem with gays getting married.
I also support Chick Fil A's CEO's right to freedom of speech, therefore I will not go out of my way to eat or not eat at Chick Fil A.
If you went to Chick Fil A the other day because you support freedom of speech, then good for you. If you went there because you don't like gay people, then get a life.
I also support Chick Fil A's CEO's right to freedom of speech, therefore I will not go out of my way to eat or not eat at Chick Fil A.
If you went to Chick Fil A the other day because you support freedom of speech, then good for you. If you went there because you don't like gay people, then get a life.
In most cases, I think "Christian Values" are a good influence. Studies have shown this. However, I think certain things picked out of the bible are overinterpreted. That's the case here. I don't see how 2 women or 2 men getting married affects anyone at all.
I'd like someone who is against gay marriage to give me one reason why, besides "the bible says it's wrong".
Last edited by -Ross-; 08-07-2012 at 03:56 PM.