What are the gun laws in TX?
06-21-2006, 01:17 PM
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It doesn't say 0%. I took the class March 5th of this year, this was a big topic and I promise I am not mistaken. The wording is something to the effect of there is no limit for BAC. Obviously that doesn't mean you can have as much as you want, it means you cannot have any.
I'll see if I can find it.....
I'll see if I can find it.....
06-21-2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by aggiez28
that wasnt what i heard, but then this was a few years ago and i wasnt going to drink at all while i carry.
can yall show me where it says 0% ? what part of the book?
can yall show me where it says 0% ? what part of the book?
PC 46.035 UNLAWFUL ARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER
(d) a license holder commits an offense if, while intoxicated, the license holder carries a handgun...
page 2 - GC 411.171 - DEFINITIONS
(6) 'intoxicated' has the meaning as assigned by section 49.01 penal code
they dont post PC49.01 in the book, but a quick google of TX Penal Code 49.01 returns:
(2) "Intoxicated" means:
(A) not having the normal use of mental or
physical faculties by reason of the introduction of alcohol, a
controlled substance, a drug, a dangerous drug, a combination of
two or more of those substances, or any other substance into the
body; or
(B) having an alcohol concentration of 0.08 or
more.
in the class i took, they said 'understand this to mean 0.00' which i feel is more of a 'for you own good' rather than the letter of the law.
06-21-2006, 02:11 PM
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if you're drinking and carrying, you might as well just mail your license back to the state. its less painful than an off-duty(or even plainclothes) cop seeing you print at a bar knockin down shots or drinkin beer.
06-21-2006, 03:06 PM
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no, i definatley dont think you shold be knocking back shots at a bar while carrying. but i think a beer with dinner is ok.
the 51% thing is one of the few laws i dont agree with. i definatley dont think you should carry while intoxicated, but i dont think it should be illegal just to be IN the bar with a firearm while sober. like what if you are the designated driver and you're in deep ellum or something... i think one of the most likely places you are going to get mugged is on your way to your car after coming out of a bar late at night. i mean, yeah you are less likely to be a victim if you are in a group, but still...
the 51% thing is one of the few laws i dont agree with. i definatley dont think you should carry while intoxicated, but i dont think it should be illegal just to be IN the bar with a firearm while sober. like what if you are the designated driver and you're in deep ellum or something... i think one of the most likely places you are going to get mugged is on your way to your car after coming out of a bar late at night. i mean, yeah you are less likely to be a victim if you are in a group, but still...
06-21-2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by slayer_taunu
no, i definatley dont think you shold be knocking back shots at a bar while carrying. but i think a beer with dinner is ok.
the 51% thing is one of the few laws i dont agree with. i definatley dont think you should carry while intoxicated, but i dont think it should be illegal just to be IN the bar with a firearm while sober. like what if you are the designated driver and you're in deep ellum or something... i think one of the most likely places you are going to get mugged is on your way to your car after coming out of a bar late at night. i mean, yeah you are less likely to be a victim if you are in a group, but still...
the 51% thing is one of the few laws i dont agree with. i definatley dont think you should carry while intoxicated, but i dont think it should be illegal just to be IN the bar with a firearm while sober. like what if you are the designated driver and you're in deep ellum or something... i think one of the most likely places you are going to get mugged is on your way to your car after coming out of a bar late at night. i mean, yeah you are less likely to be a victim if you are in a group, but still...
Also when I took the class, we had a Jersey Village police officer explain to us that the law is seen as "0.00 BAC" instead of "0.7999~" is that we know better. We took the class, we assumed the responsibility, and now we can no longer claim ignorance like others. I personally support this part, as I'd much rather have them see it as "no alcohol" instead of "almost drunk"
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06-21-2006, 04:24 PM
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instructed that if there is no sign posted, it's up to you to decide whether it's worth the risk or not. The example was given with Chili's, it's a restaurant for the most part - which is fine to carry in - but it also has a bar within that is not acceptable to carry in, despite the fact it may not have a sign
if chilis dosnt meet the 51% law then you can carry anywhere inside the resteraunt.
that line of thinking is somewhat like this
lets say one lane in a grocery store sells 51% beer. well i cant carry in that lane.....
dosnt make sence right.
the fact that chilis has a bar dosnt mean you cant carry in the bar.
the law dosnt say you cannot carry in a bar. it says you cant carry in any place that sells 51%+ booze
if i have a bar but we sell moer food than booze then i can carry in it. technicly its a bar.... just not a very good one lol
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06-21-2006, 08:16 PM
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Actually it says you cant carry when the establishment gets 51% or more revenue from the sell of alcohol for ON SITE consumption meaning liquor stores are ok to carry in, unless they have the sign with penal code 36.06 on it.
06-21-2006, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by aggiez28
im pretty sure you are allowed to carry in a bar in a chilis. unless teh bar is its own establishment and meets the 51% rule.
if chilis dosnt meet the 51% law then you can carry anywhere inside the resteraunt.
that line of thinking is somewhat like this
lets say one lane in a grocery store sells 51% beer. well i cant carry in that lane.....
dosnt make sence right.
the fact that chilis has a bar dosnt mean you cant carry in the bar.
the law dosnt say you cannot carry in a bar. it says you cant carry in any place that sells 51%+ booze
if i have a bar but we sell moer food than booze then i can carry in it. technicly its a bar.... just not a very good one lol
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if chilis dosnt meet the 51% law then you can carry anywhere inside the resteraunt.
that line of thinking is somewhat like this
lets say one lane in a grocery store sells 51% beer. well i cant carry in that lane.....
dosnt make sence right.
the fact that chilis has a bar dosnt mean you cant carry in the bar.
the law dosnt say you cannot carry in a bar. it says you cant carry in any place that sells 51%+ booze
if i have a bar but we sell moer food than booze then i can carry in it. technicly its a bar.... just not a very good one lol
brook
. Either way, it's not up to any of us to decide. That particular judgement (as well as any other part of the laws that are unclear ) is left up to the discretion of the police and district attorney. I'm not going to risk it, but that's just me 
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06-22-2006, 07:56 AM
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Actually it says you cant carry when the establishment gets 51% or more revenue from the sell of alcohol for ON SITE consumption meaning liquor stores are ok to carry in, unless they have the sign with penal code 36.06 on it.
just apply the same senario to an onsite place and it will convey the point
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06-25-2006, 08:40 PM
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I just got my license in the mail yesterday, havent carried anywhere yet though. I'm planning on buying a bersa .380 this week, my glock 23 is a little big to conceal, comfortably that is.
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