I didn't read anything that would make me think that.

and Zac .. did it ever occur to you that your friend that was there for the ride along might have told them to give you a hard time, just for the hell of it to bust on you??

 

HAHAHAHA i know my brown *** has been searched for no damn reason before.

 

I think not having cats can be a pretty bad fine, and I'm not sure on jail time but I think it could be a possibility. Don't see the point in two tickets though, not like you could bolt a new exhaust on there.

 

I was pulled over for no front plate wednesday afteroon. Expired license all i got was a warnign for the plate and a ticket for the license which can be dismissed. The cop was polite, and also thanked me for my courtesy. I dont mind cops at all he was just doing his job and as kev said it was my choice to not have one on there so i paid my consequences.

 

Why would you need to search a convertable cobra being driven by a young male in gym attire that is obeying traffic laws ,(speed, signaling,ect ect) just because it's missing a front plate? What from this situation would justify a search?

I understand you are just doing your job, but there is a point when this becomes excessive in certain cituations (this being one of them).

 

But if he would have said no to the search, wouldn't they have towed it till they get a search warrant???

 

Don't roll your frickin eyes at me...as usual, there is always a guy like you that figures he's knows better.

He was not obeying the law...you can not pick and choose which laws you wish to obey and the ones you don't...at least w/o suffering the consequesnes.

Example: Do you think a 5 dollar drive off is not hurting the gas companies...now then you say, You wouldn't fill up and drive off though.
SAME THING FOLKS..... Theft is theft and No LP is still...not obeying the law...PERIOD.

Do you know how small a baggie of narcotics can be? Do you know how many places you can hide a weed, meth, or crack pipe, a syringe, a gun, etc, etc, in a car. We are told not to profile...so...just because a guy is in a convertable wearing gym attire...we are supposed to say, "Oh, well...now there goes a fine young man....bullshit! That's just as stupid as pulling over people driving low riders...are they all gang members in your eyes? Any minorities can chime in here at any time and explain to Matlock here what it is like being 'profiled'.

No, obviously you don't. You obviously just think you do. What 'SITUATION' do you want to have spelled out in the legislature that confines when an officer can and can not search
...Perhaps only on Tuesday afternoons, between the hours of 2 and 4 pm, while the temperature is 75 degrees and there is a slight wind from the west??? I know, sounds ridiculous doesn't it. BUT...so is your suggestion that YOU believe this is excessive. Neither you or I were there. We do not know all the details. But, your continued beating of this with the...well, Umm, you don't think......This is the type of silly crap officers put up with from internet, monday morning lawyers that makes me want to yak.

 

Officer would have to articulate reasons for seizing a vehicle for a search. A vehicle can be moved so, obtaing a warrant for the search of one usually has to be based on facts alot stronger than someone just saying no to a search. If he wanted, and could justify it, the officer could call a K9 for an exterior examination of the vehicle. Dog hits on the car, bingo. Tow it based on the K9's alert. That is PC as upheld by the supreme court... or...arrest the driver for no front lp, then do a vehicle inventory. Kinda shitty but, it happens.

Every situation is different, that's what makes working interdiction so interesting. If an officer is sharp, he will get what he wants from a driver.

 

Im not sure what you mean when you say "what can i do with this?"
What exactly are you wanting to do about the situation that happened?
Do you just want to prevent it from happening again?

 

The problem here is that Americans prize their privacy, and the idea that an officer would consider arresting them for a violation of a pretty worthless law just so they could go through their personal stuff pisses them off.

How about this one, I got a citation from the Campus PD a while back for Trespassing right. Pretty much I parked my car and walked away about 100 yards, I headed back and he was there, so I let my presense be known and had to do the whole hands in the air/turn around/lift your pants thing. He asked a couple questions, asked if I had any weapons in the car, "No." Then told me to sit on the tailgate, said that he was gonna search my truck. "Ok" On the citation he marked that he had consent to search. I was just kind of irritated that he said he had consent without asking. Never went to court though, they ended up dropping the charges. So what was the deal?

 

You are a cop on ls1tech that is cool Me personaly dislike some cops Its the cockey ones that kill me Im a black guy afro American if you wish, And I cannot get over the fact I used to get pull over allmost everymonth. My offenses range from no signal at turn or failure to yeld Its the small things that get me

I have been hated on by some cops asking me about my car clothes and watches and so on, and I tell them everytime that my folks have money and Im in the Army. And here comes the full blown car search and pat down

But on a lighter side a have cigar camras in my car and audio I have managed to get a cop that kept calling me (little N.... Boy) while he search my car fired and out of court settlement of 50,000 The funny thing was is i didnot know my cameras where on untill i downloaded he footage on my lap top. Hired a lawyer and went to town But Im under an agrement not to disclose the location

So Off my box and I salute you Because you find the crazies in the states on or highways and I stop the crazies from crossing the water

 

People who think they know the law, In the Army we call them (**** House Lawyers) They dont know ****!!! I advise everybody who think they know the law to go to the local PD and find out the latest laws and do an indepth reasearch on the laws. You then would have an ideal of what is going on the next time you get pulled. Do not bash cops by all means there are bad ones and good ones. My approach is this, If I get pulled for anything I am calm and polite, But If he comes off as an ***, Then I put on my game face and use my knowledge. But by all means do as the officer says and write everything down and seek legal guidence or file a complaint if you feel or know somthing is not right. But if you know a good cop support him or her. When I was in the states I used to jog with a harker heights cop she was cool, Gave me a warning when I was dead wrong ( Did a LIttle Burnout By the house)! So everytime I see her I speak and shoot the **** for a while.

 

This argument is such BS. By that logic, why don't you just arbitrarily set up road blocks on every corner and search every car on the road?

Not arguing the legality of the situation, but WTF does not having a front plate have to do with the likelihood that he possesses narcotics, or whatever the F the cop thought he might find?

Makes as much sense as pulling over soccer mom in the minivan with 2 kids who's late to the soccer game for speeding, and then searching her van.

 

Being a minority also, the only thing I can tell you is know the law and your rights. I would try and find out first if your friend was having the cops bust your chops; I'd also go down to the Friendswood municipal building and find out what their new policy is. If indeed the cop was overstepping his boundaries then you can file a complaint(i'm guessing his name is on your front lp ticket). Being profiled sucks and especially having a nice sports car can sometimes magnify the situation. Good luck

 

Zac, I know it's a hard pill to swallow, and your pride was hurt by having to look like a thug being searched, when anyone that knows you, knows that you are king preppie boy. But, think of all the **** you have gotten away with, ie. racing, acting a *** and never been caught for, oh well. I like alot of people have met cops that were cool, and cops that let the shield get to their head. I used to be hardcore into sport bikes. My favorite thing was riding for miles on 1 wheel, and can I tell you in a 3 year period it cost me alot of money. I had a real good friend of mine that I rode with who was a Lt., now a Captain with a certain Sheriffs dept. He would get pissed when I would get a ticket for careless op., in his eyes he felt it was b.s. knowing my riding ability. The moral of the story is the law is the law, they are sworn to uphold it. Kev, I understand your rant, from what I understand you're a real cool guy. Before anyone bashs, these guys see and put up with alot of **** from thugs and punk *** kids, and people who think they're above the law. They also are same ones that if someone harms you or a sibling that will fight to the end to bring you or family justice. Nobody ever said life was going to be easy, you take the good with the bad. We all have to eat a little crow every now and then.

 

I got pulled over, frisked, and had my car searched about 6 months ago (1st time in 10 years) over speeding. 10 years ago I went to jail for a serious crime I didn't do nor do I know who did it, so when the police officer told me to get in his patrol car because he thought he just found some drugs, I started shitting bricks. I was like, "what are the chaces of me going to jail again for something I didn't do." He though the tobacco in the center console was weed. I told him I was an elementary teacher and what kind of teacher and role model would I be if I did that stuff.

Anyway, after 30 minutes and a huge lecture over speeding (40mph in a residential area) he let me go. I know police officers are doing their job when they search your car and most of the time they probably end up finding something, but for me, I freak out when put in that situation. They may do it for BS reasons most of the time, but at least their doing their job.

Some word of advice: don't ever put anything in your car that can be confused as a weapon or drugs

 

see that pic in K9 Kev's signature? He pulled that bmw over for no front plate

 

That is EXACTLY the type of crap that drives me nuts.

i.e. **** poor officer !

I've had people refuse a consent search when I was on the road. It's all part of the game. Some officers can't handle rejection...funny...they are likely shitty in their personal affairs as well...

Anyway, the point is, I would have a giant problem with this type of treatment myself. You have a right to be upset on that one.

Just and added note here for everyone. I see a few posts down that one of our military members touches on this;

I am not a lawyer. My comments and opinions are meant as free advice to anyone who take or leave it. It has been mentioned in this thread a few times already that, if you want to do something illegal, it is your choice. Just be prepared to face the music.

 

Now that's funny...........

 

Zac take a pic of your car with the plate on and the Tk will be dismissed.


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