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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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So we drop the GTO off at Beck and Masten North this morning to fix a leaky steering rack, and a bubbling spoke on the steering wheel, all under warranty, and the service consultant gets down on his knees and starts inspecting the tires:

"Hmmm looks like some uneven wear here... sir, have you ever thought about putting nitrogen in your tires?"

I smile and simply say no thanks, but I wonder how many people they hook by casting that line out there... If I woulda known that I could charge people for air, screw college and working! haha...
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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I know some people use Nitrogen in their slicks so they won't leak off as fast.. Nitrogen is a heaver gas then oxigen/air and it won't leak as fast..
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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so then we should all pay to get our tires nitrogen filled since god forbid I fill up my tires once every few months for free, or 50 cents... lol If your leaking enough air to where you need to use this nitrogen stuff, probably have other issues perhaps? I lost about 4 psi in the last 9 months in the Z06, does this mean I need nitrogen?
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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im pretty sure it has to do with temperatures of nitrogen vs. oxygen, not with leaking, tires shouldn't leak at all no matter the gas in them, gas can expand or shrink because of temperatures but it shouldn't escape
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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improves ur gassmillage also.. my dad put it in his 07 and hes geting a few extra miles per tank...
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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It's all about making a high margin sale.

http://www.nitrogentiremachine.com

How much was the fill - $19.95? $24.95? Cost is pretty low for them. Nice margin in it.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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how much does it cost to put nitrogen in your tires
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you posted the same time as your answer
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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im pretty sure it has to do with temperatures of nitrogen vs. oxygen, not with leaking, tires shouldn't leak at all no matter the gas in them, gas can expand or shrink because of temperatures but it shouldn't escape
What you're saying makes some sense... I just don't know how that could be a prescription for uneven tire wear... I can say with certainty that it's the alignment that is the culprit
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Actually that is not true. Nitrogen is lighter than air and is more permeable than air. We use it all the time in the oil industry to detect leaks in equipment because of its permeability and that fact that it is not flammable (by itself)
Actually, I am wwwwrrrrong. Nitrogen IS lighter than air, but air is more permeable because the Nitrogen molecules are larger. I know because I googled it

So I guess they put Nitrogen in tires so they don't leak out as fast.

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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mattraypharbor
improves ur gassmillage also.. my dad put it in his 07 and hes geting a few extra miles per tank...
Bleh, too many variables involved to say the gas mileage increase is primarily from the element N
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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so i can get a rotation for uneven wear, which is free at DTC, or get charged 20 bucks for a gas that i will let out once i get to the strip, hmmm
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Originally Posted by 1320FEVER
Actually that is not true. Nitrogen is lighter than air and is more permeable than air. We use it all the time in the oil industry to detect leaks in equipment because of its permeability and that fact that it is not flammable (by itself).
So what you're saying is that if you had a leak, Nitrogen would exit in a more frenzied manner?
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hahaha dan03mach=owned
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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so i can get a rotation for uneven wear, which is free at DTC, or get charged 20 bucks for a gas that i will let out once i get to the strip, hmmm
He shoulda just stuck with asking me about getting an alignment done... Woulda netted more revenue from it, and not made my day so light and filled with joy... hahahaha
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by txhorns281
So what you're saying is that if you had a leak, Nitrogen would exit in a more frenzied manner?
Nah, just saying that it will more likely leak with nitrogen than with air.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Air is mostly nitrogen.

They use Nitrogen in tires instead of air because it won't have the moisture. Makes little sense to me on a street car that sees moisture on the outside of the wheel/tire on a regular basis. For the most part it boils down to a gimick. Much like drilled rotors.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 1320FEVER
Nah, just saying that it will more likely leak with nitrogen than with air.
You say tomato, and I say nitrogen in tires is ...
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by txhorns281
You say tomato, and I say nitrogen in tires is ...
I say its just a waste of money like any other gimmick that they can dream up.

But it does add value when doing leak tests.
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Old Jan 11, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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well this what i found, i don't know who's correct but i have heard this from a truck driver before.

The thinking is that nitrogen's larger molecules prevent it from seeping out of a tire as quickly as air. So inflating tires with nearly pure nitrogen - which has been done for years in race cars, commercial airliners and long-distance trucks - allows them to retain correct pressure longer.

Pressure is vital because a properly inflated tire is a safer, more efficient tire. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says most drivers can improve gas mileage by nearly 3 percent by keeping their vehicle tires within the recommended pressure range. The government also estimates the nation loses more than 2 million gallons of gas every day due to underinflated tires.

Enter nitrogen. Chemical No. 7 on your periodic chart of the elements. At anywhere from $2 to $10 per tire.
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