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Old 01-27-2007, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Looks like yours is coming right along man.

Guys, this is NOT my motor. I said id make power....This motor makes nice power but still not finished. Its a customers motor. So no, this will not end up in my car Check the edit on the dyno thread. More Pics and videos are there.

No need to make excuses on why your bigger cubed motor dont make the same or better power. This one too is strictly a nitrous motor.

I would definitely say that my motor makes more then that on an engine dyno. My driveline is not so good for a dyno number.
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Originally Posted by GueSS Who
I would definitely say that my motor makes more then that on an engine dyno. My driveline is not so good for a dyno number.
I would bet if it did, it wouldnt be by much.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
it made 682 when we called it quits for today. Dont have small enough jets for the carb and ignition breaks up on bottle over 6500-7000 rpms.

Its a street setup. The car will be driven just like you did with the black car somewhat. Except more street duty and heavier weight. I bet it runs the same if not better ET's on smaller pills as well. Everything is better and well matched about this setup vs. you guys.

12.8-10.2 doesnt net 3 points compression. 2.6 is more like it. Compression isnt the key to making power. Heads, intake and cam which you should know that.
I drove my car home from RPM......LOL that stands for something doesn't it? LOL........Besides the black car was a hydrolic roller, heads, and cam 382 with a dry kit and has the record for DFW for nitrous LS1s with a 5.56.....Don't be biting off more then you can chew. We have already demonstated how to get it done. Yours is just in the engine dyno room......there is a big difference.
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Besides if RPM's combos didn't work there wouldn't be 5 cars that have multiple sub 5sec passes under their belt.

This is not about RPM anyway.........Keep this on target. I think the motor makes good power and looks nice at the same time.......Just keep it real in here.....I hope it makes good power on the sause and I hope it goes in a really nice car. I would like to see more LSx based cars out there hauling ***.
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Originally Posted by GueSS Who
I drove my car home from RPM......LOL that stands for something doesn't it? LOL........Besides the black car was a hydrolic roller, heads, and cam 382 with a dry kit and has the record for DFW for nitrous LS1s with a 5.56.....Don't be biting off more then you can chew. We have already demonstated how to get it done. Yours is just in the engine dyno room......there is a big difference.
There is no yours here Cj...Ill repeat it once again. this is NOT my motor.

As far as the record..whooptie do...You take the same bore and stroke and make the same power.

Post up the engine dyno sheet of that motor that was in the RPM Car.


You're right there is a big difference in engine dyno and track ets. The funny thing is, this combo was built to take peoples money. If you would like to be first in line, the man said to give us your number and he'd call you to set something up. Hes ready to make some money is the bottom line.
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Originally Posted by GueSS Who
Besides if RPM's combos didn't work there wouldn't be 5 cars that have multiple sub 5sec passes under their belt.

This is not about RPM anyway.........Keep this on target. I think the motor makes good power and looks nice at the same time.......Just keep it real in here.....I hope it makes good power on the sause and I hope it goes in a really nice car. I would like to see more LSx based cars out there hauling ***.
Im not saying the combo didnt work. But lets put some rules into like you have to run with Marks car and Yours if you run Extreme or Limited street and Ray will build a motor that will wax your guys ***. He's got more experience in builds then you can claim 5 second ets for. Bet that.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
There is no yours here Cj...Ill repeat it once again. this is NOT my motor.

As far as the record..whooptie do...You take the same bore and stroke and make the same power.

Post up the engine dyno sheet of that motor that was in the RPM Car.


You're right there is a big difference in engine dyno and track ets. The funny thing is, this combo was built to take peoples money. If you would like to be first in line, the man said to give us your number and he'd call you to set something up. Hes ready to make some money is the bottom line.
Bring that bitch to SAR!
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Bring that bitch to SAR!
Ill mention it to the owner of the car and motor when he picks it up. I responded in the other thread as well to the head and intake port work stuff.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Ill mention it to the owner of the car and motor when he picks it up. I responded in the other thread as well to the head and intake port work stuff.

I pmed you. Thanks Let me know if you guys decide to come down. We can run em.
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
I pmed you. Thanks Let me know if you guys decide to come down. We can run em.
This guy is strictly about making money. If your down with that ill let him know. Im sure he'd travel.

I pm'd you back
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
This guy is strictly about making money. If your down with that ill let him know. Im sure he'd travel.

I pm'd you back
LOL We will see. Thanks for the PM!
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Originally Posted by JMBLOWNWS6
LOL We will see. Thanks for the PM!
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Like mike said i'd like to see someone make 682hp with a 372ci motor and not a big bore motor. This is a 3.910/3.875 motor and it only has 28 degrees of timing for the nitrous, it's not even an ls6 block. We'll put 36 in it tomorrow and i promise you it'll make 740 plus. We have this thing on safe tune for anywhere from 200-400jet of nitrous. The thing you guys might not realize is. The black car supposedly made 602 but where is the dyno on it and where did it make power 6700? Well ours makes power at 8200, so no matter what it's a mean mother ******. The higher you make power the faster it is. Second of all is, We build mostly Pro stock, pro mod, craftsman truck and Nextel cup motors. Our pro stock motors usually gets about .31-.33 BSFC and this motor gets about .38 which is great for an ls1. I'd like someone to show me a BSFC that low. Usually there around .45-.47 which the lower it is the less fuel it takes to make efficient power. When i was attending SAM our 428ci only made 798 @8700 and it was 14.5cr with ls6 heads with a 2.100 intake and a 1.600 exhaust. That car ran a 9.14 1/4 @154. The heads our motor has are the stk 2.055 and 1.60 exhaust vavles that come in the dart 225 heads. The intake was finalized at 351cfm@.730 and the exhaust went 258@.730 without a pipe, and a pipe is wurth a solid 15-20cfm. These heads where developed on a wetflow flow bench and trust me they are a bad *** set of heads. There only 234cc intake ports and if anyone knows cylinder heads they'd know 351cfm out of a 2.055 intake vavle is mean, and the airspeed is on the dot @ 320ft/sec over the short side.We are using the gmpp intake which i've read and heard so many people say is garbage and that it would never rpm, well that was proven wrong. When done right it is the best carb intake on the market besides our sheetmetal intake. The cam in it is very small compared to most ran. It's in the 250's and the cam is cut on a Nascar fast ramp lobe and 108lsa. we run tight Lsa's in all of our nitrous pro mod's and they run better then that wide lsa **** out there. The guy who owns the car has plenty of money. I talked to him tonight after reading all these posts and he said put your money where your mouth is. He runs Yellow belly everyweekend usually and when he gets it in the car next week he'll be more than willing to take your money. He did say 3000 is the cheapest he'll go on a money race in the dfw area and 5000 if he has to travel. He has three other motors with us and he needs your money. I know a lot of you guys have some nice cars and i'm sure there really fast. But coming from us, who build some of the toughest and badest motors in the racing indusrty. This liitle ls1 is a bad liitle dude. So anyone that can prove and show us cash in hand he'd be more than willing to run. just pm mike or me. Thanks and good luck to everyone. If anyone is interested in the custom pan or rocker arms that we desinged then just pm me and we can get them. It has to be run with a tubular k-member and it holds 8qts with external oil filter location. They go for aliitle over 500, but i'll make sure. The rocker arms are about 1000.

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got some 98 heads you need to finish Chris?

good #'s and motor looks good.
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That should be a fun set-up.

Are you guys planning to run Extreme Street with it?
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234cc's....that is good. I was wondering how big they were.....that is a pretty small head with some good flow.
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Looks like yours is coming right along man.

Guys, this is NOT my motor. I said id make power....This motor makes nice power but still not finished. Its a customers motor. So no, this will not end up in my car Check the edit on the dyno thread. More Pics and videos are there.

No need to make excuses on why your bigger cubed motor dont make the same or better power. This one too is strictly a nitrous motor.

You gonna drive this car into the crowd like you did in the black car?
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Originally Posted by ez98ls1
You gonna drive this car into the crowd like you did in the black car?
I havent wrecked **** dude. Please quote the right person
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Originally Posted by NaSSty Nate
got some 98 heads you need to finish Chris?

good #'s and motor looks good.
They arent 98 heads but they are 853's. You want pics Nate? Ive got them. This was the motor I was telling you about he's been working with trying to get the bugs worked out. Ive been up there for the past 3 weeks in my off time trying to get things buttoned up and running on the dyno with these guys. Brainstorming, etc its on there and we are seeing light at the end of the tunnel.

The flow numbers on the exhaust are 258 though not the 358 he posted. With a pipe it will go more.

Here's your finished head pics Nate. Ive also got pics of the before's. Big difference here. These heads will be great on someones motor for sure.

Before's
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0670.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0671.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0672.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0673.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0674.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0675.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0676.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0677.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0678.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0679.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0680.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0681.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0682.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0683.jpg

Afters
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0658.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0659.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0660.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0661.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0662.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0665.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0666.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0667.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0668.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...k/HPIM0669.jpg

Yes, Nate, you will get the before and after flow numbers too. Old valve job to the new valve job You can compare them to your TEA's thats on your car now.
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Originally Posted by turbo'd stang
That should be a fun set-up.

Are you guys planning to run Extreme Street with it?
Nope. Yellow belly only. Seems to pay better..LOL



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