Astros - "the blow every win baseball team"

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Old 04-04-2007, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hawgs
Ensberg's bat speed seems much better than it seemed last year and if this production from RF and Everett keeps up... I think we'll be okay.
Ensberg was hurt most of last year, but was afraid to admit it, which is exactly the WRONG thing to do. He killed us last year by being completely unproductive offensively. Hopefully he (and the Astros) learned his lesson and will do better this year.


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Old 04-04-2007, 04:16 PM
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as bad as he seems to be, he's still better than most the closers in the league. He's proved he can dominate a full season and everyone is going to hold him to that standard. He blew 6 saves last year, 4 in 05, 4 in 04 and 5 in 03. not that big a difference, they just came in grand fashion
Old 04-04-2007, 10:11 PM
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Alright go LASTROS! Another fine game to put us at a tie with the World Series Champs at 0-3!
Old 04-04-2007, 10:16 PM
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Rangers completed the getting swept as well today 0-3 without even putting up a fight in any of the games. Surprise Surprise the pitching for the Rangers getting rocked every game.
Old 04-04-2007, 10:48 PM
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Only 159 games to go.... this could get painful.
Old 04-04-2007, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DSIM
Only 159 games to go.... this could get painful.
Yeah no kidding..... Tonight really pissed me off...
Old 04-04-2007, 11:43 PM
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i was at the game tonight! we got 6 tickets for 20 bucks a pop sitting on the lower level 20 seats from the field!! not too shabby how we pulled that off! cant complain about the 8 dollar beers either haha
Old 04-05-2007, 12:30 AM
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I think the Astros are experimenting to see if a major league team can actually go 0-162 in a season.
Old 04-05-2007, 01:16 AM
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go 'stros?
Old 04-05-2007, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ArchOverseer
I think the Astros are experimenting to see if a major league team can actually go 0-162 in a season.
Even if that is a joke... you're retarded for even joking that they're the worst team in baseball.
Old 04-05-2007, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hawgs
Even if that is a joke... you're retarded for even joking that they're the worst team in baseball.
Old 04-05-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by white man
as bad as he seems to be, he's still better than most the closers in the league.
False.

First of all, not all major league clubs have a "closer," so that could possibly be a little misleading.

Second of all, name me one (or more) closer that is worse than Lidge.

I can think of maybe one or two, but to say that he's better than most of the closers in the league is inaccurate, I think. Let's discuss.

He's proved he can dominate a full season and everyone is going to hold him to that standard. He blew 6 saves last year, 4 in 05, 4 in 04 and 5 in 03. not that big a difference, they just came in grand fashion
Why shouldn't he be held to that standard? I contend that he MUST be held to that standard. Bottom line, if he can't get the job done (which remains to be seen), someone else should be given a chance, and they will be.

A difference of two more blown saves from the previous year IS a substantial difference when you consider we only missed the playoffs by 1.5 games.

Blown saves cannot be the only stat you look at when attempting to prove (or disprove) his inadequacy as a closer. He has given up WAY more hits, runs, and walks than ever before. Which translates into him being totally unreliable. Not a quality you want in a closer.

My $.02.
Old 04-06-2007, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RAGEman
Second of all, name me one (or more) closer that is worse than Lidge.
I think they all play for the Rangers

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A difference of two more blown saves from the previous year IS a substantial difference when you consider we only missed the playoffs by 1.5 games.
My $.02.

This man gets it.

Also, look at the starting pitcher...like Roy O., who goes 7 innings to hold a lead. They count on their "closers" to finish the job. ND's are something that a pitcher DOESN'T want. I don't know how Roy O, Clemens, and Pettite didn't slap the **** out of relievers last season.....and I wouldn't be surprised to see Lidge slapped this year.
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2.6 runs per game by the offense isn't going to cut it either.
Old 04-06-2007, 05:35 PM
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Rangers beat the Saux today 2-0!!! Our leading batter is hitting a .210 that is going to take us far.
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yea, at least the RAngers didn't start their season 0-4!
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Originally Posted by Splitz
yea, at least the RAngers didn't start their season 0-4!

Sun shines on a dogs *** every now and again..........

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Old 04-06-2007, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DSIM
Sun shines on a dogs every now and again..........
That's funny, a friend of mine who is a Red Sox fan said that same thing!!
Old 04-06-2007, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Splitz
That's funny, a friend of mine who is a Red Sox fan said that same thing!!

Maybe there is truth in those words.......
Old 04-06-2007, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hawgs
Even if that is a joke... you're retarded for even joking that they're the worst team in baseball.
Yeah, it was a joke. I'm a Stros fan, been one for a while. I'm hopin' they pull outta this funk just as much as anyone, but let's face it, this isn't the start we all had hoped for.




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