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Old 11-21-2007 | 08:46 AM
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Coach Fran as recently as last week was approached by
the US Olympic committee to come on board full time to
become the head coach for the US bobsled team. After
an interview with Olympic officials they were
unbelievably impressed with the manner in which
Franchione is able to get a team to go downhill faster
than any coach in modern history.
Old 11-21-2007 | 09:12 AM
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Lol, Jon. Do you think Fran be able to get another coaching job anytime soon when he's fired right after the Texas game after what he's done to A&M and even more so his incredibly poor choice of doing the VIP newsletter deal?

Fran remnds me so much of John Mackovic when he was at Texas. Neither guy fit in with their personality and the culture at the respective schools and didn't relate well with the players either.
Old 11-21-2007 | 11:08 AM
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Lol, Jon. Do you think Fran be able to get another coaching job anytime soon when he's fired right after the Texas game after what he's done to A&M and even more so his incredibly poor choice of doing the VIP newsletter deal?

Fran remnds me so much of John Mackovic when he was at Texas. Neither guy fit in with their personality and the culture at the respective schools and didn't relate well with the players either.
Yes, i absolutely think fran will be able to get a job. Where? I have no clue. I thought he would be a good fit at SMU. But Kragthorpe is the rumored coach at that job. But it won't be in a major conference, unless its at a bayloresque school. There's a slim chance he'll be somewhere next year but it wouldn't surprise me if he takes a year off to get his sanity back. The alums here have rattled his cage going on 5 years. He should be retiring next week.

I remember mackovic, and i remember when mack was brought in, i was like "who the hell is that?"

As for our next coach, who the hell knows. Spurrier is the msg board favorite right now. There's a couple people wanting kragthorpe, TT has nearly vanished from mention, art briles was mentioned on here a bit. Hal mumme made me laugh last week when that name was thrown around. I don't think its going to be any of those candidates. The only reason spurrier would come here would be because of money, there's the argument that he would be more likely to win a MNC here at A&M over SC, mainly due to it being a bit easier conference than the SEC. But thats not my words. Another rumor thats going around, is a big money ag in houston wants to throw 2 mil in the pot to get a coach, and if spurrier is chosen, he will rescind his "gift" Apparently this same ag is one of the ones that was pushing for fran in the beginning.

My thoughts is it will be someone off our radar. We don't need a coach thats gone out to pasture and is ready to be "comfortable" I hate to say it, we need an unknown that is looking to bigger and better i.e. a Billy Gillespie. it sucks that he used A&M as a stepping stone, but we need to find a coach that has the fire for bigger and better, not one thats mission is to lock it on cruise. Jim Tressel was a D2 coach before OSU. So who knows.

I geuss thats my one meaningful post on this thread, Happy Thanksgiving! and BTHO tu!

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Old 11-21-2007 | 11:17 AM
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Jon,

what do you think about a guy like Chris Peterson from Boise St.?
Old 11-21-2007 | 11:44 AM
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Tuberville, Spurrier, J. Johnson, B. Davis wouldn't scare me at A&M because I don't think they have the fire in them anymore to win it all and be totally driven like they used to. Coaches like R. Rodriguez, Peterson, Belotti, or an unproven assistant (Muschamp, Pellini, etc) would be concerning. This is a big hire for $Bill. He didn't hire Fran, but he's the one who gave him a huge raise and contract extension when he had done nothing at A&M and no one was trying to hire him away, so his neck is on the chopping block if he doesn't make the right choice.

What's going to be difficult for the new coach next year is A&M is losing a bunch of key contributors off of this team, could have difficulties in keeping their existing recruits and luring new ones this year depending on the timing of the hire, and IMO, the #1 reason why A&M will continue to struggle no matter who is hired is that Texas, OU and LSU are all very strong programs right now and are dominating the state's recruiting.

Coincindence? I don't think so. When the Ags had their run of success in the late 80's and early 90's all of those teams were down and A&M dominated recruiting and got the best athletes in the state. The big three, and you could probably somewhat throw in Tech, is what they're going to have to overcome if they want to be a consistently successful football program again. It starts with the right hire and it will be a difficult task for the new coach. It will be interesting to see who Byrne hires.
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Recruiting is always tough in Texas cause there are a ton of good schools the kids have to choose from, but I think a lot of kids will get excited about playing for Peterson and choose A&M over UT or Oklahoma or LSU.
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Anybody ever do any research on whether you could catch dyslexia from sheep? I am concerned about our neighbors in College Station that seem to get UT backwards all the time.
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Jon,

what do you think about a guy like Chris Peterson from Boise St.?
Looking at what his wikipedia has about his career. He's an offensive coach. A&M doesn't need another offensive coach. I don't know what to consider fran, he has a bend don't break defensive strategy, and run it run it run it offense. And that didn't work here. Peterson will either make himself a campus legend staying @ Boise St. or jump to a bigger conference.

matt,

Thats exactly my point with all the big names that are being thrown around. Les Miles might make the jump to Michigan, but Lloyd wants them to promote from with-in. So i don't think M will be shopping this year. Rodriguez will not leave. Frans contract stipulated he was to get a raise and i think there were a couple other circumstances going on that caused a raise to happen. Belotti is another O coach. Bo pellini will most likely be at NU next year. My personal choice is Muschamp. I just like the guy.

I can't make any guesses on next year, and won't actually. Who knows what a good coach can do with the players on the team.

Recruiting is tough in texas, we get our 4 stars and maybe a 5star here and there, but we're mainly consistent on 3 stars. There was a proposal from LSU to start playing us again, at a neutral site(houston), and we turned them down, mainly from a $$$ standpoint(they still owe us some money for a botched deal in the 90's, and bryne won't play that way) and the other is recruits. But LSU also grabs recruits from else where too. It will be interesting....very interesting off season.

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Old 11-21-2007 | 12:16 PM
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Anybody ever do any research on whether you could catch dyslexia from sheep? I am concerned about our neighbors in College Station that seem to get UT backwards all the time.
sorry buddy, tradition is tradition. Next time i do anything i will put a post it note on my computer reminding me to not hurt your feelings. sound good? good.
Old 11-21-2007 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Spazdout
Looking at what his wikipedia has about his career. He's an offensive coach. A&M doesn't need another offensive coach. I don't know what to consider fran, he has a bend don't break defensive strategy, and run it run it run it offense. And that didn't work here. Peterson will either make himself a campus legend staying @ Boise St. or jump to a bigger conference.
If you look back at the last decade every team has been coached by somebody who could be described as 'Offensive'. Obviously each team had a good defense, which is something that is very important in Aggieland, but if they go with another defensive coach like Slocum we'll be right back here in 3/4 years.

2007 - Florida - Urban Meyer
2006 - Texas - Mack Brown
2005 - USC - Pete Carroll
2004 - USC - Pete Carroll
2004 - LSU - Nick Saban
2003 - Ohio State - Jim Tressell
2002 - Miami - Larry Coker
2001 - Oklahoma - Bob Stoops
2000 - Frorida State - Bobby Bowden
1999 - Tennessee - Phillip Fulmer
1998 - Nebraska - Tom Osborne
1998 - Michigan - Lloyd Carr

Pete Carroll was a defensive co-ordinator in the NFL before he became a head coach, but I certainly wouldn't call him a 'defensive specialist'.
Old 11-21-2007 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben R
If you look back at the last decade every team has been coached by somebody who could be described as 'Offensive'. Obviously each team had a good defense, which is something that is very important in Aggieland, but if they go with another defensive coach like Slocum we'll be right back here in 3/4 years.

2007 - Florida - Urban Meyer
2006 - Texas - Mack Brown
2005 - USC - Pete Carroll
2004 - USC - Pete Carroll
2004 - LSU - Nick Saban
2003 - Ohio State - Jim Tressell
2002 - Miami - Larry Coker
2001 - Oklahoma - Bob Stoops
2000 - Frorida State - Bobby Bowden
1999 - Tennessee - Phillip Fulmer
1998 - Nebraska - Tom Osborne
1998 - Michigan - Lloyd Carr

Pete Carroll was a defensive co-ordinator in the NFL before he became a head coach, but I certainly wouldn't call him a 'defensive specialist'.
so who would you think would be the best fit in the current market @ A&M?
Offensive Minded Coach vs. Defensive Minded Coach?
Old 11-21-2007 | 01:36 PM
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sorry buddy, tradition is tradition. Next time i do anything i will put a post it note on my computer reminding me to not hurt your feelings. sound good? good.
You didn't hurt my feelings so no need to worry, but perhaps the post-it is a good idea so you can remember which order the letters are in. Just so you don't confuse all the people who think that TU represents some place like Temple, Trinity, Taylor, Tooling, Towson or Tulane Universities.
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A&M........35
Texas......28
Old 11-21-2007 | 01:44 PM
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One other thing that isn't helping the coaching search situation at A&M is that a lot of big-time schools are looking for or are going to be looking for head coaches this year, which will dilute the pool good coaches for Byrne to choose from. The reality of it is that Nebraska, UCLA, LSU, and Michigan are all more coveted jobs than A&M, so the top names are going to be more interested in those schools over the Aggies.

This is unfortunate for A&M, because if these other top schools weren't all looking for head coaches the Ags could most likely have their pick of the top guys available out there. Whereas now they may be considered by some of these coaches, but will end up being the second or third choice to the top dogs and A&M will possibly have to settle on someone down a ways on their wish list if these guys take the higher profile jobs.

I think A&M needs to take the best available coach out there and not be solely focused on only a defensive minded guy. The sooner after the Texas game they can make their decision the better off they are for several reasons (recruiting, compeition with other schools for coaches, preparation for a bowl game, hiring assistants, etc.)



Hazmat, I always though "TU" stood for "The University". Doesn't it?
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One other thing that isn't helping the coaching search situation at A&M is that a lot of big-time schools are looking for or are going to be looking for head coaches this year, which will dilute the pool good coaches for Byrne to choose from. The reality of it is that Nebraska, UCLA, LSU, and Michigan are all more coveted jobs than A&M, so the top names are going to be more interested in those schools over the Aggies.

This is unfortunate for A&M, because if these other top schools weren't all looking for head coaches the Ags could most likely have their pick of the top guys available out there. Whereas now they may be considered by some of these coaches, but will end up being the second or third choice to the top dogs and A&M will possibly have to settle on someone down a ways on their wish list if these guys take the higher profile jobs.

I think A&M needs to take the best available coach out there and not be solely focused on only a defensive minded guy. The sooner after the Texas game they can make their decision the better off they are for several reasons (recruiting, compeition with other schools for coaches, preparation for a bowl game, hiring assistants, etc.)



Hazmat, I always though "TU" stood for "The University". Doesn't it?

I agree with everything here.

I think Chris Peterson would make for a great fit at A&M. He's a young coach that has proven he can win big games against national powerhouse teams, which is something the Ags have to do every year in the Big XII.
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Should be a good game. I think that it being at Kyle Field will give A&M the advantage. We shall see...
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Should be a good game. I think that it being at Kyle Field will give A&M the advantage. We shall see...
the field alone does not give you the advantage anymore.


fran took the scariness away from playing at kyle field. the aggies are easy to get quiet as well.
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tyler you coming up for the game?

i want tamu to win but we all know how that goes
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