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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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I don't think there is much else that needs to be said.........and about your friends car......that car ran nicely when it left esp for an A4 with a cam on a 110 lsa.
WRONG!!! Im the one with the other car. Drivability must be a relative term because i think it drives like **** it was better with the diablo programmer in it. How do you do a drivability tune by only going around the block once? The car dies and stumbles off idle. I drove an A4 car with a T-rex that had perfect drivability so it is possible if the tuner cares about what hes doing. I got the impression that because we didnt have big cube turbo cars that they were annoyed at the fact that they had to waste their time on us. Whether or not RPM is at fault for donalds catastrophic failure i dont know but i do know if they call what we got good drivability then i would have to wonder about their tuning ability all together.
Old Dec 1, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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Hey D....come see me at work Monday about a new LS1, I know where there is one with low miles and already camed and heads running still in the car! And running very well!!!!
I was going to get it for my wifes TA but going a different route.
Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by little Red Camaro
Hey D....come see me at work Monday about a new LS1, I know where there is one with low miles and already camed and heads running still in the car! And running very well!!!!
I was going to get it for my wifes TA but going a different route.
Thanks Hova I will holla at you. I need a long block bad..........
Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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slow98z,

This is Brian the owner of RPM. First let me start by saying we are very confident in our tuning abilities and if you are unhappy with the car then I sincerely apologize personally. I know that you are in texarkana and you cant just come back right around the corner, so in stating this I know that it is not convienent for you, but if you could get the car back here we would be happy to work on it for you more. It is hard sometimes when tuning cars from out of town, because normally the people are there and only there for a few hours. So you dont get to spend all the time in the world on the car like you would like to. Does not mean that it gives you a reason to half *** or anything, but cars tend to run alot better when warm than they do when cold. With saying that, I would be happy to help you with your car if you are unhappy as I would have with Donalds car as well. It just seems he wished to burn that bridge before even trying to be civil. He was unhappy with the power, and since we were the last ones that touched it, well that meant for sure it was our fault. So to both of you I want to apologize for you seemingly unhappy visit to my shop, but at the same time extend my welcome back to at least correct the problem that you are having. If you do not want to come back I will understand but at that point there is nothing else that I can do. And just for the record, we have only done two big motor turbo cars in 5 years so lets please stick to the facts. We care for every customer that comes here new, or repeat. Allow me to make this right for you in some way and I will gladly do so.

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p.s. Donald, when we were talking about heads, I was trying to help you and for you to come on here saying all I was doing was bashing is very week on your part. I was not trying to sell you anything, I was simply trying to get you going in a direction that would make you happy. Sorry that I thought I was trying to work with you in a customer basis, and as a friend.

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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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well i have a few things to say about rpm myself. i went up there about six months ago to have my truck tuned, yeah i know, its a truck, but it was a heads cam 5.3 with a radix supercharger. when i was there i had the same problems with them, they didnt want to hear anything i had to say, they pretty much said shut up and let them work. well thats what i did. well i got it back the first time and found out it was going lean up top, something they didnt bother to tell me, it needed bigger injectors. so i took it back and had them retune and as soon as i got back to town the converter blew up. so i went back to the video i had of the dyno pulls and found out they were locking the converter under wot!!!! not good, so they cost me $750 on a new converter! and as far as driveability goes,,, they had it idleing at 1200!! thats fn rediculous. and it would stumble and die all the time. so i had a guy in town tune it for me, and had no further issues. RPM Sucks. I will never go back and i will never tell anyone else to.
Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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Wow Mr. Bobo that is a great post. Not one person at our shop has told anyone to shut up and let us work. And you asked us to lock the converter so that you could see a bigger number. You and I personally went a drove the truck and you said that it felt and drove great other than one thing you kept telling me, and that was that it ran different at the track when you took the headlight out. We are the ones that told you that it needed bigger injectors when the truck was there. Then you went a put bigger injectors in the truck. Fixed that problem. I remember your truck very clear because Keith gave you my cell number so that I could help you over the phone with someone else you had tuning it there in texarkana. Which is fine it is your truck but when you have other people in the computer, even though they tell you what they are doing will not hurt the tune that is currently in there, it will. All changes to the PCM effect all aspects of how the truck drives. I am happy for you though that you got your truck worked out and are happy with it now. In the end that is what truely matters.
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just to clarify, the only thing you said about the power falling off up top was " i guess the cams just thru making power". well i took it upon myself to hook a wideband up to it when i got home and discovered that it would start going lean above 5200 and go as lean as 13.5 at 5800, and if you would have looked at the idc's you would have seen they were at 129% at 5800! you never once said it was going lean, and as far as the converter is concerned i knew not to lock it under wot with the charger, everyone knows that a single clutched converter can not handle that with forced induction. and if i knew thats what you were doing then i wouldnt have let you. it just seemed to me that ya'll couldnt figure out how to go about tuning my truck, but i did get it worked out after the fact. and no, noone ever actually said shut up and sit down, i was just saying thats the impression i got when id say something.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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Brian,
I think you should keep a more watchful eye on whats going on in your shop. Stop getting defensive and look how many of us are unhappy with our experience at your shop. We are not stupid. We know what drivability is. Three different times i told the tuner things i wanted done, and he all but told me no. I will not be back. Guess you made an easy $400.00. No retunes or updates here. P.S. Neither mine nor Donald's cars had a fan on them while on the dyno but when your employs put their vette on the dyno, out came the fan. That says alot.
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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by slow98Z
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I think you should keep a more watchful eye on whats going on in your shop. Stop getting defensive and look how many of us are unhappy with our experience at your shop. We are not stupid. We know what drivability is. Three different times i told the tuner things i wanted done, and he all but told me no. I will not be back. Guess you made an easy $400.00. No retunes or updates here. P.S. Neither mine nor Donald's cars had a fan on them while on the dyno but when your employs put their vette on the dyno, out came the fan. That says alot.
Do you care about Dyno #'s or the tune being right? All a fan on the dyno does is inflate the #'s just a touch more...doesn't really affect the tune...

I do NOT see eye to eye with RPM on a few things but they seem to always try to take care of people who are not happy. Has any of the 3 texarkana boys called them and expressed they were unhappy before flaming away? Just a question do not flame me.

Garzoni seems to know what he's doing and helped my tuner (not a shop just a buddy) put 460 to the tires out of my lil ms3/5.3 tea headed combo...They made no money off me but dyno time but Matt did help with the tune just as a fellow gear head so props to him.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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Amen Nate... How was the party ?
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:11 AM
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Both of them were ok, nothing major to report.

Also reading the other thread...the guy heard a noise on initial start up...pull the heads see if you hit a piston/ptv clearance...with any sort of cam that large with that much duration you should check PTV even on stock heads much less a smaller CC head that may or may not have a valve job.

<----checked PTV on both sets of heads I put on each time I pulled each head.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NaSSty Nate
Both of them were ok, nothing major to report.

Also reading the other thread...the guy heard a noise on initial start up...pull the heads see if you hit a piston/ptv clearance...with any sort of cam that large with that much duration you should check PTV even on stock heads much less a smaller CC head that may or may not have a valve job.

<----checked PTV on both sets of heads I put on each time I pulled each head.
Right... So we running from a 30 I hear ?
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:49 AM
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The reason that the vette received the fan was because the intercooler gets very hot! Not as special treatment but to help keep the power robber cool. There was plenty of time between pulls on both cars to cool them off. And its not only about making money for me, and I guess thats where some customers get off base. I am unhappy that you guys are unhappy. Not one time have I said that anyone is stupid, as you can see I am writing at 2:45 in the morning because this whole situation has caused me to not be able to sleep. I take this very serious and when I say that I wish there were something that I could do I mean it. If there is nothing that you will let me do to make it right then, I guess keep on flamming me and my shop. Hope it makes all you guys feel better and makes you happy with the cars cause that is what I care about. $400 is $400 and for some that is hard to come by, I am not running a shop to make a killing. I enjoy what we do and its fun to see all the different combos and what not that people have. I am sorry for your unhappiness at RPM. Sincerely! The three of you. As posted before I would be happy to do anything I can to help out, as that is what is important to me!

P.S. I am a little defensive about my shop getting bashed, sorry! It means alot to me that everyone that leaves is happy. if they are not then yes I am a little upset, dont see how that is a bad thing.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mellowyellow
Right... So we running from a 30 I hear ?
Dude my car is slow...barely edged out a heads/cammed vette tonight.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by donalr76
On the way back home the motor blew looks like a it threw a rod through the block. It is locked up. When it rains it pours. I put heads and cam in it Monday and it died today. You can see chunks of piston #2 in the intake behind the throttle body.
You lost your rod bearings homie. It could have been from the tune but chances are you dont run enough oil to spin that motor as high as you do with the stock pan. Im not talking about 5.5 qts either..Thats only required for stock bro. You have no one to blame but yourself. You just dont add compression to a well seasoned shortblock. It will spin a bearing time and time again.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 04:15 AM
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I like the part where he says he's a machinest and posts everything he did to the car with no tune etc in the linked thread... LOLOLOLOL

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Originally Posted by BadCompany VP WS6
I like the part where he says he's a machinest and posts everything he did to the car with no tune etc in the linked thread... LOLOLOLOL

Go to bed already geeesss....
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by WOTFMAN
You lost your rod bearings homie. It could have been from the tune but chances are you dont run enough oil to spin that motor as high as you do with the stock pan. Im not talking about 5.5 qts either..Thats only required for stock bro. You have no one to blame but yourself. You just dont add compression to a well seasoned shortblock. It will spin a bearing time and time again.

This is the dumbest post in the thread.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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bad tunes might break a ringland, but have no way of dropping valves.... the plugs will tell you if it was lean, or had too much timing in it, but you should have been able to hear it detonate....
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike TexaSS
This is the dumbest post in the thread.
What's the logic behind your post?

WOTF what's the logic behind yours? Just trying to understand.



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