Does this look like a valve hit the piston? Need help?

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Old 02-11-2008, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chrysler kid
i had a valve spring break and i had to drive my car across town (15 miles) the car barely idled made like 100 horse power but made it across town and did not have any damage to the pistons or valves. you should be fine i dont see any metel to metal contact
Did it make a loud *** bang sound as well???
Old 02-11-2008, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ckyconan2003
yea you would see metal to metal contact, ie the shiny edge. however, why arnt all the pistons cut the same? almost asthough you have different pistons lol.
I do have diffirent pistons....didnt find that out till i took the head off. Freaken fasteck and their crap work. 3 on that side have the valve relifs and the last one in the back doesnt. But it still made 400+ RWHp. LOL just enough to give a GT a nice good raping.
Old 02-11-2008, 03:48 PM
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were you spraying?. i melted a valve spraying once and it looked like that
Old 02-11-2008, 03:53 PM
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/\/\/\/\/\ nope i belived all the rumors and never did as soon as I get this thing back together ill spray the crap out of her. Well Im not gonna over do it. Where can i get a valve spring compressor tool??
Old 02-11-2008, 04:10 PM
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id say clean them up with carb cleaner or something then take pictures.
Old 02-11-2008, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXIMO
Did it make a loud *** bang sound as well???
i was at idle when mine broke, it just knocked and ticked alot and the motor shook like hell. never heard any bangs or anything like that.


i noticed in this picture there is a build up of oil around the piston. im not sure what that means but the rest of your pistons look "clean" and dont have oil like this. and in your picture of the head i noticed you do have some "knicks" in the head above the valve. looks like piston #3 and the damage to the head match up, you may have a cracked ring but im still not sure how you have those indentions without breaking the valve or having pieces of the valve spring go into the combustion chamber or rattle around. do you have all the pieces of the valve spring itself? maybe some pieces of the valvespring got in there and some smaller pieces effed up the ring

just a thought

ok the piston order im referring to
front of car - 1-2-3-4




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Old 02-11-2008, 05:25 PM
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The plug in that cylinder is a lighter color than the rest too. What did the gaskets look like? I would put a socket on a breaker bar and spin the motor around. Id be curious to see if one of the pistons wont come up.
Old 02-11-2008, 08:13 PM
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gasket looked good. I belive that was some of the water from the heads comming off not oil on the piston. I guess it does look kind of suspect. Ill inspect it tomorrow when i get home and take pics of everything again. Maybe ill get some carb cleaner and clean it off alittle. Plus that where the sound was comming from around there. So what do those knicks mean? Would it be something that is an easy fix or is it something that i need to pull the motor and look at it??
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This is actually what it looks like when a valve hit's a piston...
Old 02-11-2008, 08:51 PM
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ouch that just looks bad.....that almost hurts.
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some of the valves on the heads are a little cleaner than the others. possibility a head gasket was starting to leak as well
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do you have all the pieces of the broken valve spring? did any pieces break off of it
Old 02-12-2008, 12:04 AM
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Man that tore up piston gives me a good idea for a trophy for the next track meet...

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Old 02-12-2008, 07:03 AM
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I dont see any broken springs rented a tool from autozone come to find out thats for the single springs. The springs look to be ok, but i want to take them off just to check anyway. Ill be looking @ piston 3 first to see if a valve was bent. Ill take somemore pics tonight when i get home on the pistons and head.
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How was your oil pressure before you tore the engine down? Is the engine still in the car or have you pulled it?
I'm gonna go totally opposite of everyone else and say: Spun Bearing

Drain your oil, and stick an extendable pen magnet in your oil pan from the drain plug. If you get flakes, then that's your answer.
When a bearing spins out on a rod, it (in layman's terms) grinds itself into the big end housing bore. With no bearing there anymore, the rod knocks AND can actually hit the head as it comes over the top, since the housing bore is now "bigger."
Just stick a magnet in there, if it comes out clean, then you may be out of the woods in that department. Good luck!
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Good advice havent drained the oil yet ill do that tonight as well.
Old 02-12-2008, 07:36 AM
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It might be to your advantage to pull the motor, or at least the pan. Pulling the pan opens up a world of information that simply pulling the heads won't tell you. Too bad you're in Dallas or I'd give you a hand.
Old 03-19-2008, 05:26 PM
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it looks like this...

Old 03-19-2008, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by brokenfly
it looks like this...

Damn Wes, that sux to say the least. I'm looking into replacing my 918's right now. I heard this is what caused your mishap. Can you shed any more light?

Rick
Old 03-20-2008, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike96z
are those pistons flat top or they have valve reliefs?
it's more than likely it was the only piston they had handy when he got a rebuild



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