hello there,
I had a forged stock ci engine with heads and cam in the car before I did the new set up and decided to change it once I found out the the block was crap and burning lots of oil.

anyhow I have been told that the tune needs be re-done completely since its a bigger engine or a NEW Different engine. I am installing bigger injectors so that needs to be scaled correctly. The car starts right up and holds an idle very good. I am wondering if in fact I need to pay the SAME shop a tune as if it was never touched before........

Did you have to re-tune the car from scratch after putting in a bigger engine?

It seems a bit overkill since they tunned it before. Why would I have to pay the complete cost if I was told by them that if I did any upgrades they would charge me accordingly, and not the complete amount... Again I am just asking this because I dont understand.

the new set up is a HKE 408 with 205 AFR heads and a custom cam. the LS6 intake, Pacesetter headers and everything else is the same from the last combo.

new thinkgs installed would be
the 408
205 AFR heads,
new cam
and bigger injectors.

thanks

 

Yes! Because why? To keep it simple, you just have to do it. You need the cam to be camming, stroker to be stroking, etc. Most shops charge a smaller fee for retunes for when your combo changes, as in your case.

 

that is my question, I know that I do need a retune, but I dont see why I have to pay full price for it......from the same place....

 

That tune was bunk from the last shop so I wouldnt take it back to them at all.

 

simple misspellings bother me to no end

 

HOWIE, why do you say that the last tunning was bunk from the last shop? as far as I know the tune was right on, with good street manners and drivability...
what are you saying

 

who tuned it last?

 

Usually a retune is not full price. That is kinda weird. Where did u get it tuned?

 

If you had our lifetime dyno tune. A retune would only cost 75.00

 

Its a new motor, but the same PCM. Therefore, it should just cost the price of a retune.

 

I dont know if I had a lifetime dyno tune, I did ask this question "If I get any upgrades, are you going to charge me accordingly or do I need to pay full price? they said at first that they would charge about 150-200 then when I called to get an appointment I get that I have to pay full price since its a new motor and a completely new setup. Anyhow, I asked why I eed to pay full price since I already have a file with them, they said that it did not matter since they still have to spend some time to get it right.....

I DONT WANT TO BASH ANYONE, I am just getting information to educate myself on how this works,

I think I payed 400 the first time to get it tuned there, that is the second time I had it tunned since one shop in DFW could not get it right.....and this is comming from their mouth.

the first time I had the car tunned it was done by Chris Robinson, supposedly it was running pig rich and KR was there and it was not resolved. so he did it safely.

second time RPM did the tune because I was not happy with the retune and supposedly I had payed 500 dollars through RPM for a life time tune, and Brian was learning at that time, this was about 2 years ago when CR split.

I then took it to SQR and talked to them about the tune, they said that they could work it and make it right, the drivavility was greatand the power they got out of the car was also good, but I am tired of having to pay full price anytime I change something in he motor or when I try to get it right and it seems impossible for this car to get there.

I am getting frustated and just need someone that is good at it.

I was very patient when I took the car to SQR and let the car sit there for 1 week, becuase the tunner is not onsite and only visits the shop to tune the car...All because I want my car to finally run good.

I replaced the engine becuase It was blamed that it was crap, the heads are cheap, the block was built by some one that did not know crap, and all in all it was just poor quality.

now I have new sensors, new block, different cam, new heads, etc....I want it to run right.


HELP ME FIGURE THIS OUT.
Thanks

P.S f this is too long, sorry.

 

sorry for the misspelled words, I am typing this before I go to work and did not checked spelling>
Brian at RPM did only charged me for dyno tune and accomodated me with the price, I took it to SQR to have different eyes look at the tune ( for the record) I was pleased with RPM customer service in the past.

also SQR had good CS, they said they will discount the tune to $300, and Still I think that it is to much to pay, heck some places that is what the charge for a full tune...

 

If you're willing or just have to pay for new tune, $500 worth, just take it to LG. Reputable shop thats been around for a long time, too bad you aint in Houston to have a selection of tuners to choose from.

 

Drive to houston and let me work my magic!

 

That's why you need to get into tuning, so you don't have to pay every time you do an upgrade.

 

Mike at G-Force tuned my 408 and I have a big cam A4. She drives sweet!!

 

Use chuck@ HPE if you head towards Houston.

 

Stephen at East Texas Muscle Cars does a good job at tuning. easttexasmuclecars.com

 

I can't spell http://easttexasmusclecars.com

 

Well if you head to Houston then you just need to take the car to Mike @ G-Force. Good luck with you tune whatever you decide to do...