Tig welding a thick mondo flange on schdle 5 piping
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Tig welding a thick mondo flange on schdle 5 piping
I went out to Tulsa welding school back in 92 ,so I have been in this trade for awhile,I'm proficent in tig coppernickel,ss 316,347,304,inconel & monel but have not welded much aluminum with the heliarc rig,so I have a c5 fi paxton novi 2k & I'm putting on the mondo bov,the piping going to the system is the ecs kit,to me it looks as thin as schdle 5 stainless,so I grab this rig & its got a foot pedal ,no big deal so I hook up the remote & get a peice to set the machine on,well the shop has no thin wall aluminum ,so I turn the machine down to around 50 amps On a miller & I set the aluminum billet flange on the piping & focus my heat on the flange,it won't even come close to melting the flange ,so bump it up 10 more & I ended up scorching the thin piping, so I'm now thinking ,I've gotta fill the hole & tack off the flange in sections, get the heat hot enough to melt the flange & roll the wire down to the piping as I. Wipe to that. Side,I am using the only thing the guy had in the shop & that's 1/16 tungsten&1/8 filler wire ,I may have to run to the welding supply store & get some 3/32 wire,but I know ,I could use the 1/16th wire as well but,the issueis the billet aluminum flange going on schdle 5 piping,how would u do it,any suggestions?I'm all ears,btw most of pipe welding has been open butt double bevel groove on a 37&1/2 deg angle,& if the pipe needed mitered the fitter got a donkey dik & fixed the transition
Last edited by vette#3; 12-31-2010 at 10:13 PM.
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You need at least 1/8th tungsten, and 3/32 wire. Also, I've found that pre-heating thick pieces is a good idea. Then concentrate most of your heat on the flange, and just wash up on the pipe. Gotta be patient with thick aluminum stuff, don't just mash the pedal.
#3
Yes, the 1/8th tungsten holds heat much better than the 3/32 or the 1/16th tungsten & on top of that, he had the red thorolated tungsten for the aluminum ,shouldhave been,or should be green for aluminum,I have welded alumnum with the red it just ***** up pretty much as soon as you strike an arc with it, I also prefer the thumb control as well,but beggrs can't be choosers, problem is today is the day I am wanting to get the welding done & being its the 1st nothibg is open,this project is being done in sarasota,fl & I drove 8hrs to have someone tune my car in sd,no one in Mobile ,al has hp tuners that can tune a c5,c6 or an f body,only bubba /james parker. Rwtd,he only does Maf tunes
#4
3/32 Will do anything you need to do.
Tip #1 use 2% thoriated, the thoriad carries the amps much better than pure tungston.
Tip #2 use 50/50 argon helium mix gas. The gas changes the game. With 50/50 you can weld things that you wouldn't dream of with pure argon.
Tip #1 use 2% thoriated, the thoriad carries the amps much better than pure tungston.
Tip #2 use 50/50 argon helium mix gas. The gas changes the game. With 50/50 you can weld things that you wouldn't dream of with pure argon.
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Good advice in here. I didn't know we had some experienced welders hanging around. I wont bother typing my advice out bc it would mirror whats already been said.