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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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all that you have suggested is that we return to the old format, with multiple sub-forums. That is not possible.

I have posted screenshots of the product and settings we now have. Nobody offered any help in setting up what we do have. That is my point.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Robb M.
all options:


Part Fits options:


Engine Type 1st option screen:


Engine type 2nd option screen:


LS Engine (PART) options:


LS Engine (Car) options:

This is what we can change. Tell me what you would like in there.

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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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Ok Robb.... I"ll Play.

Make it Simple!! Here's my thought

First you have ONLY 3 catagories
A. Engine
B. Drivetrain, Suspension Part
C. Body, Interior, Cosmetic Part.

Second if you select "A" You only get ENGINE specific catagories to select:
A. LS Engine Part (to inc. LS1,2,3,4,5,6, etc) (which would b 1997-2010)
B. LT Engine Part (to inc. LT1,4 etc) Years 1993-1997
C. Other engine type Part

If you select "B" in 1st catagory, a menu pops up w/ following options:
A. 2010+ Camaro
B. 2005-Current Corvette
C. 1997-2004 Corvette
D. 1998-2002 Fbody
E. 1993-1997 Fbody
F. All other vehicles

If you select "C" from the First catagory, You choose from the specific model cars
A. 2010+ camaro
B. 1998-2002 Camaro
C. 1998-2002 Trans Am/Firebird
D. 1993-1997 Camaro
E. 1993-1997 Trans Am/Firebird
F. 2005-2010 Corvette
G. 1997-2004 Corvette
H. 2004-2006 GTO
I. Pre-1993 Fbody
J. Pre-1997 Corvette
K. All other vehicles
------Seller may select up to 2-3 options------

For Vehicle Classifieds follow the last catagory of A-K

This is just a rough draft off the top of my head and looking at you charts above. I AM BY NO MEANS AN EXPERT on the vehicles. People Please feel free to tell Rob any catagories I may have left out.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Looking at that, what about adding a catagory for FORCED INDUCTION/NITROUS to the First catagory list
Where you then be able to select from the:
A. 2010+ Camaro
B. 2005-Current Corvette
C. 1997-2004 Corvette
D. 1998-2002 Fbody
E. 1993-1997 Fbody
F. 2004-2006 GTO
G. All other vehicles

Due to FI kits being vehicle specific.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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Ill help out first I guess.

For the 93-02 Firebird/Camaro they are actually TWO different bodies for the most part.

Its 98-02 (LS1) Firebird/Camaro and 93-97 (LT1) Firebird/Camaro. If you split those two up, it would be good for the most part. Literally make TWO separate forums for both if you can. It would help A TON.

Also, C5 Corvette goes from 97-04 and C6 goes from 05-current. Break that up as well.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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ok, now we're getting somewhere!

YURVIEW, thanks a lot. Unfortunately, we can't have it show different things depending on what a person selects.

We can make some sections required and some sections optional if that helps though.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Robb M.
all that you have suggested is that we return to the old format, with multiple sub-forums. That is not possible.
i dont really care for the old format but more so organization. in the for sale section you need two parts for sale sections one for ls stuff and the other for non ls stuff and not have them as a sub forum. the search **** sucks it doesnt work worth a ****.

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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Can you set up to where if you Select "A" in 1st catagory, then the ONLY fields the seller could select would then be in the Engine Types Catagory?? Not sure how to ask that..... If a seller selects "B", then the Engine Type catagories and Cosmetic Catagories would be Locked out, to where the seller has only the choices from the Drivetrain catagory.
Does that make sense??????

The way it is now.... If im selling a seat, I have to select an option is Every catagory. Sometimes it makes me select an engine type and sometimes it doesnt. I'm trying to get it to where if the catagory(s) do not apply to what is selected the First Section, then those catagory(s) will be "locked out" or "dimmed" to the background, so the seller is then shown which choices to select from.
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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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also..... get rid of the ONE PART PER THREAD!!! If a person has a list of LS parts to sale, allow them to list em in one thread and allow the search to search thread content and not just title. If the same person has LS and LT parts to sale, then he/she would then need to create TWO SEPERATE Threads. This is in Someway attempting to get the LS and LT parts seperated again like it use to be......
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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hey YURVIEW, thanks again for taking the time to put some thought into this.
I do not see any way to make it function the way you would like it to where some things are dimmed out, or unavailable based on previous selections. That is certainly good feedback that I can pass along to our dev team to incorporate into v2.

The restriction of 1 item per thread is pretty much a necessity, it allows people to see all pertinent sale details while just viewing the list of threads in the forum, or of a particular category of items.
I realize this is distasteful to end users because it creates more work, but it really does end up getting your items more exposure than when 7 items are buried in one thread/post.

The biggest issue with this product on LS1Tech is that the categories etc were never set up to properly mimic whatever the setup was previously. I definitely apologize for that, but I am confident that by working together we can salvage things and make this marketplace useful to all of you.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:33 AM
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robb if you were a car guy and ever tried to use these classifieds you would understand how fucked up this **** is and that the search **** and all these stupid *** detail things will never work on any automotive classifieds section that has decent traffic.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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Ron, I don't know why you would think that I'm not a car guy. I've owned 24 cars in my 34 yrs, not to mention all the motocycles, boats, atvs, etc other vehicles I've also had.

Cars are my passion, and this marketplace is working out really well on other car sites. The only difference is the resistance to change, and refusal to work with me to fix it here.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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The problem is no one wants that many catagories. Make the CATAGORIES like the old subforums were. Im not asking you to make the old subforums or resurect them. Lots of parts are interchangable so they can go in multiple catagories, so if someone is looking for it they cant just search for it... they have to go through all the catagories. Dumb.

Its 98-02 (LS1) Firebird/Camaro and 93-97 (LT1) Firebird/Camaro. If you split those two up, it would be good for the most part. Literally make TWO separate forums for both if you can. It would help A TON.
The thing is with this, there are some parts on LT1 cars that will fit a LS1 car. So what catagory do you put it in? This is "LS1" tech... so LS1 parts should prevail. But if im looking for a certain part for my LS1 car, it could be out there but hidden in some catagory i'd never think of looking it.

Why make it more complex than it needs to be? I dont remember what the old subforums were Its not my job to keep track. But use what you had as catagories... short, simple, everyone is used to it and it worked before.

I like browsing as a lot of other people do. Going through a bunch of different catagories sucks. You still have a classified section in the regional section also.....dumb. There is stuff scattered all over. Obviously there is no one experienced in marketing behind any of this.

Imagine a grocery store organized in alphabetical order by brand names. Like Post raisin brand in the P isle and Kellogs in the K isle. How much of a bitch would that be to shop in? Easier than trying to find what your looking for on here. Grocery stores, and most other stores have all the like items grouped together... LIKE YOU HAD ON HERE BEFORE. And the signs on the end of the isles dont list each specific item... like you dont need a catagory for each specific item. It was not grouped by what the part is, but more so if it was a part used on an "LS1" car, or usable on one.

Your Egos are larger than your knowledge base on this... so why wont you listen to people when you ask them? You keep giving the same answer "were not changing it back". Ya... done. Dont. But make the NEW catagories like the old subforums.. It worked. People liked.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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And also with your "search" format you cant list multiple items. Im not filling out that whole check list when I list something for sale... so its not going to be searchable. Its a pain in the a$$.

How do I list parts from a project im parting out? Say I have 100 different things.
Do you honestly expect me to enter each one individually by broken down catagory?
That would be crazy..... no one does this and no one would.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Robb M.
Ron, I don't know why you would think that I'm not a car guy. I've owned 24 cars in my 34 yrs, not to mention all the motocycles, boats, atvs, etc other vehicles I've also had.

Cars are my passion, and this marketplace is working out really well on other car sites. The only difference is the resistance to change, and refusal to work with me to fix it here.
Based on your automotive and marketing expertise.... Why do you think the general population of the sales section is resisting? Do you think its just because we dont like change and are stubborn? That your marketplace really does work better? Seriously. Why?

Quit being so close minded. You owned 24 cars in 34 years...... posting that is nothing more than egotistical. Numbers and statistics to not defy reality.
This really is not easy to use. Not just for me either..... LOTS of people.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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I will gladly change the categories. if there are too many right now, then we can reduce them, no problem.

Are we OK with the parts fits categories? Should that be changed to just include LS, or Non, or do we need the model/year breakdown too? This is the kind of feedback that I readily admit I don't have the background knowledge to change on my own, hence the need for this conversation.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
You owned ...... posting that is nothing more than egotistical.
None of this is about me, I was merely trying to indicate that I am not just some computer geek who knows nothing about cars. I've plenty of car in me too.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jsbach1982
What I don't get is why so many people are DEMANDING that an extraneous feature work perfectly on a FREE FORUM. Most boards I'm on charge to post in the classifieds.

Yes, I called it an extraneous feature. You can still go onto the main classifieds board and use the "search this forum" button up on the top right. Just like searching any other forum. I've never had ANY problem searching the classifieds that way.
This is a good point. To all of those calling this a financial decision on the part of IB...it's clearly not. If it were, we'd stop letting you all post your sales for free, and simply charge money to have that privilege.

This product is designed to make it easier to browse, and easier to find specific items. It is working out that way on every other site we've installed it on. LS1Tech is the only site which has refused to work with us to customize the product exactly to your liking.

Hopefully now, that the lines of communication are finally open, we can polish it off and make it usable to everyone.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Robb M.
LS1Tech is the only site which has refused to work with us to customize the product exactly to your liking.
because all those other sites you showed have about .000001% of the classifieds traffic that we do. you're not customizing any product to our liking your customizing something to YOUR liking.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 11:22 AM
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ron, this has nothing to do with me. all I have ever asked for is help from you guys, the experts who are most familiar with this forum to help me customize it for YOU.
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