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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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The feedback forum is a joke. My brother clearly had fraud committed against him, a seller sent the wrong part then called us scammers and that we switched it on him, when by his own messages he knew exactly what he sent. GEARHED then goes in and has the audacity to praise the seller! Is the outfit you run here? Then Crager throws his all mighty .02 in with his almighty lock preventing anyone from replying. We get made to be the bad ones when its 100% obvious too someone with the mental competence greater than that of a 3rd grader we where wronged. That forum was so much better when Tony and PSJ actually handled things.

I just think the fact GEARHED trashes myself and sides with a blatant fraud committing scammer goes to show a lot for how that forum is ran....


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Seller is offering a refund. I am not sure how you got "scammed" or there is any scamming going on when they responded as they have. So what if they have other parts for sale, others do as well and some, like myself, own more than one of a specific f-body. That is not against any rules.
So to sum this up, GEARHED, you think 69Vette is an upstanding citizen? So that must mean you fail to understand what everyone else ive shown this thread to has, that he knows he sent the wrong part and the accused us of ripping him off and switching it? Just want to make sure im understanding your reasoning or lack there of.


This shows a severe lack of regard for your members, administration. If someone has white and black evidence a member is dishonest and a liar, and you have mods that side with them and trash the victims, and then lock the post. Please look into the matter. If he has done something like this once he will do it again, he is a student at Virginia Tech and he has many years ahead of him, when you have mods silencing members with knock out evidence he is committing fraud and libel against an innocent party.

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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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Stop bitching - buying on the internet is AT YOUR OWN RISK. If you can't handle that, go to the dealer to get your **** from now on.

Second, as for Gearhed, she didn't take sides - she just merely noted that you guys were making it out like the seller just ran over baby jesus. He fucked up, whether it was intentional or not(he could just be IGNORANT? ) he was willing to make it right. You take a risk buying things over the internet, sometimes you get shafted. Thats how things go. It is NOT our job to babysit the member's business transactions that are done utilizing this site - the Classifieds are provided on a free, as-is basis. Buyer beware, there are dishonest people out there! Who would have thought......

The reason we didn't jump in on the thread is because the seller was trying to work with you. You and your brother took a bad attitude towards him, instead of meeting in the middle. It could have been intentional that he sent you the wrong part, but shipping is what, $20 bucks? If you want a refund, send it back, or quit bitching. $20 is less than a drop in a bucket when you think about all the costs involved in this sport.....

Sorry you have such a poor opinion of the staff members who spend a good deal of personal time helping members work through business transactions, merely because they did not "side" with you. Next time, don't bother posting up if all you are going to do is attack staff members. Constructive criticism is more than welcome, but rants and attacks are not useful nor welcome.
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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YOU ALL SEEM TO LOOK OVER THE FACT HE DID MORE THAN JUST SHIP THE WRONG PART. He said thats not what he shipped when it clearly was. That not ignorance, thats fraud...Show me one attack cyphur... I lay it out for you to play it out.
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And BTW if it was up to me, id say **** the $60 and go after him for mail fraud.
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And another thing look at my history here, ive never had a problem with a staff member before this...
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Send him the part back and be done with it. You are making yourself look bad with all your posts.
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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:52 AM
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You're calling some of the staff incompetent, partial, power hunger and audacious. I think that sums it up nicely.........

I have no problems with you, at all. I think its wrong you got shipped the wrong part, and the buyer should definitely man up and refund you 100%. My original point was, there is a mature calm way to do this, and then there is the way you two went about it. Not calling you immature, you're just caught up in the moment.

Work it out with the seller - we the staff are aware of the deal, and will monitor it. If you have issues with him agreeing to something mutually amenable, get in touch with Gearhed or myself, and we'll lend a hand.
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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And you shouldn't have any problems with any staff member PERIOD. Like cyphur mentioned, we are not here to babysit you members.

Wether or not if the seller sent the wrong part on purpose is NOT the issue at hand now. The issue you need to send it back for the refund he has ALREADY offered.
Shipping fees? WORK IT OUT WITH HIM! That has nothing to do with us, now if he never responded and jumped ship or refused to cooperate then we try to help.
BUT HE IS WORKING WITH YOU!

Originally Posted by 2KThunder
I just think the fact GEARHED trashes myself and sides with a blatant fraud committing scammer goes to show a lot for how that forum is ran.....
So you're saying she is siding with crooks, and therefor calling her one as well then?
You are lost!

And yes I closed your crying thread, but I was asked to by another Moderator.....because this is a closed case......send it back.

Seriously, what in the hell do you want the staff to do. Come to your house box it up all nice for you. Make him pay for everything, and if he doen't we take a basball bat to his head? lol
Day one when you got the wrong part you should have posted it up right away, NOT 30 damn days later.

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all this drama over $20?

Hell, that is priceless. Most people would consider that a cheap lesson and move on.
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Originally Posted by CRAGER
And you shouldn't have any problems with any staff member PERIOD. Like cyphur mentioned, we are not here to babysit you members.

Wether or not if the seller sent the wrong part on purpose is NOT the issue at hand now. The issue you need to send it back for the refund he has ALREADY offered.
Shipping fees? WORK IT OUT WITH HIM! That has nothing to do with us, now if he never responded and jumped ship or refused to cooperate then we try to help.
BUT HE IS WORKING WITH YOU!


So you're saying she is siding with crooks, and therefor calling her one as well then?
You are lost!

And yes I closed your crying thread, but I was asked to by another Moderator.....because this is a closed case......send it back.

Seriously, what in the hell do you want the staff to do. Come to your house box it up all nice for you. Make him pay for everything, and if he doen't we take a basball bat to his head? lol
Day one when you got the wrong part you should have posted it up right away, NOT 30 damn days later.

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do you not understand he is arguing for the reason that the moderator isnt able to see who is right and who is wrong? you obviously didnt read the thread either if you think that the person should have sent it back 30 days ago. when a person on a forum uses a newbie and sends him something wrong, a moderator should maybe hmm i dont know ban him or something

thats what this whole post is about
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TXjeepTJ
do you not understand he is arguing for the reason that the moderator isnt able to see who is right and who is wrong? you obviously didnt read the thread either if you think that the person should have sent it back 30 days ago. when a person on a forum uses a newbie and sends him something wrong, a moderator should maybe hmm i dont know ban him or something

thats what this whole post is about
if you ban the member then you can REALLY kiss a resolution goodbye, there would be no way to get in contact with the aka "scammer"


2KThunder,

GEARHED doesnt **** up, she does her job pretty well.

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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TXjeepTJ
do you not understand he is arguing for the reason that the moderator isnt able to see who is right and who is wrong? you obviously didnt read the thread either if you think that the person should have sent it back 30 days ago. when a person on a forum uses a newbie and sends him something wrong, a moderator should maybe hmm i dont know ban him or something

thats what this whole post is about

I want to ignore your response as it appears you are kind of dense, but feel compelled to respond.

Banning someone doesn't solve anything, not so far as this is concerned. If he scammed something like 5 members intentionally, and wasn't trying to make it right, that would be a different story.
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so yall still think he sent the wrong thing, Unintentionally. so in order for this guy to get any punishment for what he did, he must do the same to 4 more people

id rather see the guy get banned than get my money back
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well, its not really up to you...

This is GEARHED's job, and i think the right choice will be made.

All your doing is creating a bad rep for yourself.....

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Originally Posted by TXjeepTJ
so yall still think he sent the wrong thing, Unintentionally. so in order for this guy to get any punishment for what he did, he must do the same to 4 more people

id rather see the guy get banned than get my money back
I didn't know banning was worth money or epopularity...

Banning is not going to solve a problem when someone has issues with a purchase or sell. If we ban a guy who is scamming people, they are going to be left in the dark.
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Originally Posted by TXjeepTJ
so yall still think he sent the wrong thing, Unintentionally. so in order for this guy to get any punishment for what he did, he must do the same to 4 more people

id rather see the guy get banned than get my money back

Quite an opinion on how to run such a large site, considering you've only been here 4 months.
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Originally Posted by TXjeepTJ
do you not understand he is arguing for the reason that the moderator isnt able to see who is right and who is wrong? you obviously didnt read the thread either if you think that the person should have sent it back 30 days ago. when a person on a forum uses a newbie and sends him something wrong, a moderator should maybe hmm i dont know ban him or something

thats what this whole post is about
Obviosly you did not read the thread, at all.

Wrong part sent, seller offered refund.

On 2/25/07 buyer asks "What if I bought it OVER a month ago?" From day one they didn't know what they had, they noticed the broken lines on the back of it, and buyer mentions he didn't know it was bad until they tried to install it. Not buyers fault he was shipped the wrong one, but seller offers refund.
He should have known that he had the wrong one, from day one.

But what difference does it all make? HE OFFERED A REFUND.
What part of that do you not understand, really.

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He is not here to screw anybody over, and to ban him for shipping the wrong part but he offers a refund is flat out stupid.

Everybody knows he sent wrong part, seller steps up to the plate and offers refund. End of story.

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Old Mar 1, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cyphur
Quite an opinion on how to run such a large site, considering you've only been here 4 months.
With 66% of his posts (3) in this thread, truly enlightening.
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Originally Posted by CRAGER
Obviosly you did not read the thread, at all.

Wrong part sent, seller offered refund.

On 2/25/07 buyer asks "What if I bought it OVER a month ago?" From day one they didn't know what they had, they noticed the broken lines on the back of it, and buyer mentions he didn't know it was bad until they tried to install it. Not buyers fault he was shipped the wrong one, but seller offers refund.
He should have known that he had the wrong one, from day one.

But what difference does it all make? HE OFFERED A REFUND.
What part of that do you not understand, really.

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/traderratings.php?u=32241

He is not here to screw anybody over, and to ban him for shipping the wrong part but he offers a refund is flat out stupid.

Everybody knows he sent wrong part, seller steps up to the plate and offers refund. End of story.

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i asked the seller if the he is for sure this is the right one SHORTLY AFTER I GET IT READ THE THREAD -"are you sure this is off an ls1?" "98"
wow i cant believe this, yall are bashing me

HE SAYS HE DIDNT EVEN SHIP THE DAMN THING, BUT THEN "STEPS UP TO THE PLATE" AND OFFERS REFUND FOR SOMETHING HE DIDNT SHIP OUT- THE PROBLEM HERE IS HE IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING SO HE WAS SCAMMING-BUT WAS TOO STUPID TO PULL IT OFF

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