this is f'd up
05-30-2009, 01:29 AM
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doesn't even come out to make up for the strain on California let alone the rest of the country. And jfyi I know someone that does this and the person they are using gets a free check every year. If you honestly think that I have something to tell you, most don't even use fake ss numbers. Where is their part in the system of taxes. Nope don't have one but I sure get to pay for their kids they pop out. Then they will drop out of high school...not all of them 50% though in la county alone. All I'm saying is see both sides not just the one your told.
05-30-2009, 01:49 AM
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"Medicare and unemployment are more regressive in nature than federal income tax, the contribution of illegals for these two taxes is about 37 percent that of other households' contributions. And for Social Security, which is even more regressive, illegals pay 40 percent of the average household's contribution.
It must be remembered that tax payments in the table are based on the assumption that only 55 percent of illegals pay payroll taxes, comprised of income tax, Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance. If all of their income were subjected to taxation, illegals' tax payments would rise significantly. Of course, if they paid all of their payroll tax liability, this would imply that they have legal status, which would also dramatically increase use of public services."
Given the option of paying taxes and recieving public services, I'm sure more illegals would perfer that as opposed to the ladder. And don't give me this classic I pay for their kids line, that just pisses me off when social security benefies, medicare costs and unemployment are at an all time high!
It must be remembered that tax payments in the table are based on the assumption that only 55 percent of illegals pay payroll taxes, comprised of income tax, Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance. If all of their income were subjected to taxation, illegals' tax payments would rise significantly. Of course, if they paid all of their payroll tax liability, this would imply that they have legal status, which would also dramatically increase use of public services."
Given the option of paying taxes and recieving public services, I'm sure more illegals would perfer that as opposed to the ladder. And don't give me this classic I pay for their kids line, that just pisses me off when social security benefies, medicare costs and unemployment are at an all time high!
05-30-2009, 01:59 AM
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doesn't even come out to make up for the strain on California let alone the rest of the country. And jfyi I know someone that does this and the person they are using gets a free check every year. If you honestly think that I have something to tell you, most don't even use fake ss numbers. Where is their part in the system of taxes. Nope don't have one but I sure get to pay for their kids they pop out. Then they will drop out of high school...not all of them 50% though in la county alone. All I'm saying is see both sides not just the one your told.
05-30-2009, 02:10 AM
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Yes I got lucky...how about we don't go there k you don't know what and where I have come from. Lets just stick to the facts until we get immigration reform the people that are here to better their lives ie like yourself just admitted to the state is going to just keep sliding deeper and deeper into a **** whole. We don't need to deport anyof them. The ones in prison are the exception. We need to help them become citizens instead of leaches on the system that is fucked up from more then just illegals, unions, state workers.
Oh and show me where I said I want to stop them from entering. Now your just adding stuff you want me to say.
Oh and show me where I said I want to stop them from entering. Now your just adding stuff you want me to say.
05-30-2009, 02:20 AM
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Yes I got lucky...how about we don't go there k you don't know what and where I have come from. Lets just stick to the facts until we get immigration reform the people that are here to better their lives ie like yourself just admitted to the state is going to just keep sliding deeper and deeper into a **** whole. We don't need to deport anyof them. The ones in prison are the exception. We need to help them become citizens instead of leaches on the system that is fucked up from more then just illegals, unions, state workers.
Oh and show me where I said I want to stop them from entering. Now your just adding stuff you want me to say.
Oh and show me where I said I want to stop them from entering. Now your just adding stuff you want me to say.
fyi h a r d is like that because if you put a r d together it spells dumdumdum
05-30-2009, 06:17 PM
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Like I said in the beginning of this thread the only way to win is to not participate. One side will never convince the other side that they are right. What I do want to point out to the person who posted about kids in Mexico being hungry and people wanting to get hit by cars or juggling ***** etc. THIS IS THE CORRUPT MEXICAN GOVERNMENTS FAULT. They are influenced by mafia and drug wars. If a country has problems it is up to the government to fix them. The US cannot control the corruption over there and try to bring a better lifestyle to the people. The people (who are as you say hungry) should rise up and take over the government for the betterment of the people.
05-31-2009, 12:46 AM
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Like I said in the beginning of this thread the only way to win is to not participate. One side will never convince the other side that they are right. What I do want to point out to the person who posted about kids in Mexico being hungry and people wanting to get hit by cars or juggling ***** etc. THIS IS THE CORRUPT MEXICAN GOVERNMENTS FAULT. They are influenced by mafia and drug wars. If a country has problems it is up to the government to fix them. The US cannot control the corruption over there and try to bring a better lifestyle to the people. The people (who are as you say hungry) should rise up and take over the government for the betterment of the people.
05-31-2009, 01:14 AM
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you know this happens in the US too and every where else in the world, but i agree nothin like the good ole USA
but cali also depends on illegals as consumers (not just mexicans) imagine if all illegals were kicked out how much money would we lose?
but cali also depends on illegals as consumers (not just mexicans) imagine if all illegals were kicked out how much money would we lose?