kimbo got f'd
10-01-2009, 11:12 PM
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Technique? I suppose I'll have to watch it again and look for technique. I didn't see any.
10-01-2009, 11:15 PM
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It is not how much damage one fighter is inflicting on the other to stop the fight. It is if one fighter is FIGHTING BACK and trying to defend their self. Which in this fight Kimbo had ZERO self defense.
Get your head out of your *** people. This is MMA not boxing or the like and they do not have the same rules nor are the matches fought the same way.
Get your head out of your *** people. This is MMA not boxing or the like and they do not have the same rules nor are the matches fought the same way.
10-01-2009, 11:51 PM
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it was shown at the end of the first even when kimbo had the cage to lunge off of he still could not get nelson off the top. And the second round with Nelson on top kimbo had nothing that he could do to escape.
He would not have got ko'ed or hurt really bad but it would have been pointless t have him eat punches for another 3mins.
That is technique that kept him down plain and simple, and a lack of technique on Kimbo's part to escape.
He would not have got ko'ed or hurt really bad but it would have been pointless t have him eat punches for another 3mins.
That is technique that kept him down plain and simple, and a lack of technique on Kimbo's part to escape.
10-01-2009, 11:52 PM
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I really thought it was horrible coaching, at least from what they showed. Rampage isn't really giving his fighters a good game plan. He just tells them to go out and kick ***. While the other coach (evans?) is breaking it down really well for his guys. It was the right call on the fight just frustrating to watch. He needs to learn to squirm lol. They kept showing his legs sticking out just sitting there instead of using them for leverage.
10-02-2009, 12:14 AM
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i saw no technique just a belly suffocating a man, i'm pretty sure there were times where roy wasn't even hitting kimbo, more like he was hitting his own man boob... technique not at all unless you call flab suffocation a technique now
10-02-2009, 01:35 AM
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and that fight was horrible .. one big guy suffocating another one.. in my opinion there was no really technique shown at all.. but watever...
give it up to the editors/producers.. they make the commercials look like some big fight was going to go down... the publicity is what dana cares more about
10-02-2009, 09:12 AM
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Big country is a fat piece of **** plain and simple. 263lbs of lazy crap!!!!! Kimbo would have ruined his day if he had better take down defence. I'm not a fan of kimbo and I knew he was going to lose before the season aired but after I saw Roy fight i really wished it would have went the other way. Nobody was impressed with his fat *** and Dana white who has talked more crap about Kimbo than anyone else even thought he got screwed. After the fight roy had the audacity to say "I hope Rashad realizes I'm his number 1 fighter"!!! Holy crap is that fatt *** smoking the rock or what?!?!?!!?
Not to mention that big *** white football player got robed! He landed some big shots the first round against the british kickboxer and took him down twice. Almost rear naked choked the guy twice. They both come out in the second round and both are gassed, which is pathetic for a kickboxer with over 100 fights under his belt!!! The brit landed about 10-12 low kicks and ran from him the entire fight. He was scared to face the guy and he still pulls out a decision. That brit wouldnt last as a heavy weight, he should be a light heavy weight and even at that he would get ruined. The big guy just needs some damn stamina. Then the stupid **** has to speak up and defend rashad and try and act tough to rampage. Rampage would rip that guys head the hell off!!!! This has been the worst group of ultimate fighters I have seen to date!
Not to mention that big *** white football player got robed! He landed some big shots the first round against the british kickboxer and took him down twice. Almost rear naked choked the guy twice. They both come out in the second round and both are gassed, which is pathetic for a kickboxer with over 100 fights under his belt!!! The brit landed about 10-12 low kicks and ran from him the entire fight. He was scared to face the guy and he still pulls out a decision. That brit wouldnt last as a heavy weight, he should be a light heavy weight and even at that he would get ruined. The big guy just needs some damn stamina. Then the stupid **** has to speak up and defend rashad and try and act tough to rampage. Rampage would rip that guys head the hell off!!!! This has been the worst group of ultimate fighters I have seen to date!
Im like 5'11 walk around 220, fight at 205/185 but my easiest fights have been the heavy ***** over 240! lol
10-02-2009, 11:24 AM
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The fact is he is a former heavy weight champion and if kimbo had not lost his balance while trying to move his tubby *** in the second round nelson would have got smashed. He had nothing for kimbo on his feet. What kind of champion cant stand up with someone 30LBS lighter?!?!?! When he did get kimbo in crucifix he tapped him on the head like he was his best friend. Thats what this crap is about. There isnt a man in the house that house that could get that huge gut off of them once in the crucifix position. Nelson thinks he is better than everyone, he thinks he doesnt need the coaching, those facts are both further from the truth. He simply is not the CHAMPION that he believes himself to be.
10-02-2009, 11:44 AM
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You are completely right, it is technique. Not a fighting technique because that would mean that Roy was fighting. That was im really fat and im going to just lay on you technique!!!! if he had actually hit kimbo instead of patting him on the head I think there would be a lot less complaints.
10-02-2009, 12:10 PM
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he could have sat there and punched kimbo's face in but he did not. What is the point in having kimbo eat another grip of punches if he cant escape. See in mixed martial arts you need to improve your position or the fight will be stopped if you are taking damage. I bet Kimbo is happy the fight was stopped because he knew he could not escape either.
Watch the first round where kimbo was able to kick off of the cage if you had just any fat guy on top kimbo would have rolled him.
Watch the first round where kimbo was able to kick off of the cage if you had just any fat guy on top kimbo would have rolled him.
10-02-2009, 01:39 PM
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yeah shivers got robbed, but thats why they tell us in training, don't leave it to the judges. He had full mount and multiple take downs I dont understand how he lost - but both their cardio where horrible ! Ive found heavywegiths before though - and thats why ive never lost to one, they can't go past the first 3 minutes without gassing (at least the ones in small venues locally here in san diego, ive been in 12 amature fights)
Im like 5'11 walk around 220, fight at 205/185 but my easiest fights have been the heavy ***** over 240! lol
Im like 5'11 walk around 220, fight at 205/185 but my easiest fights have been the heavy ***** over 240! lol
10-02-2009, 07:13 PM
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Sounds like you've got your Tapout shirt a little too tight.
10-02-2009, 07:17 PM
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You are one of the idiots we are laughing at...
Why would you not stop yourself. Have you not heard that he was inflicting damage? I promise he was hitting MUCH harder than you think he was.
One opponent does not have to be inflicting damage to have a fight stop.. Just one fighter needs to, like you said, not be able to intelligently defend himself.
Follow and pay attention to the sport a little instead of just wanting to see a boxing match and you will understand a little bit more.
I understand what you guys are saying about Kimbo not being able to "intelligently defend" himself
One opponent does not have to be inflicting damage to have a fight stop.. Just one fighter needs to, like you said, not be able to intelligently defend himself.
Follow and pay attention to the sport a little instead of just wanting to see a boxing match and you will understand a little bit more.
10-02-2009, 07:26 PM
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And since no damage was being done, the ref should have stood them up. I understand what you guys are saying about Kimbo not being able to "intelligently defend" himself, but he was clearly not in any danger of injury (the prevention of which is the purpose of stopping fights).
Sounds like you've got your Tapout shirt a little too tight.
Sounds like you've got your Tapout shirt a little too tight.
lol at the tapout shirt comment.
10-02-2009, 09:17 PM
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I know talking down to people makes people like you feel superior, but I promise, that superiority is all in your head.
Have you ever had your head hit while it is pinned against the mat? It is nothing like when you are standing and your head can fly back. His head was taking 100% of the damage with no room for his head to move and offset some of the energy. I am telling you kimbo was happy the fight ended, there is no reason for him to eat punches for another 3 mins which is what would have happened.
lol at the tapout shirt comment.
lol at the tapout shirt comment.
Contrary to what Lemons seems to think, if there is no threat of serious injury, there is no reason to stop the fight. I think if it had been two big-name fighters who were (for some reason) in that position, like Lesnar and Mir (for example), the ref would've let it go or stood them up.
I'm glad you enjoyed the Tapout thing.
