lemons12

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Awesome.. Teach people that are high as a kite while driving, get kids drunk, and any other situation you can think of how to better get out of it..

I'm sorry, if you are breaking the law I hope you get busted. No, "I was lucky that time" Bull ****... Sure you have your rights, but if you are breaking the law I don't think you should have any rights.

Yes, I am one of those people that don't break any laws really.. I speed and what not of course (no more than anyone else in this world). As far as drugs/drinking/smoking/etc etc etc I don't do any of it, never have and never will. I don't have a problem with people that do it one bit. But if you are doing "XXXXX" and it is illegal I hope you get busted and have to pay for it.
Most people think it isn't that big of a deal. All it takes is one time swerving into the other lane.

My .02, flame away!

OP, I think you did the right thing.. I would never have any problem with an officer checking me/my car/etc etc etc.. Unless you are being a dick they aren't going to mess with your car. I am always as polite as I can be and answer any question they have. I NEVER admit to speeding or the such but I comply with anything they ask and will do whatever to make it go as easy as possible. I have only ever got 2 tickets. One for noise ordinance, I deserved it.. And the second for 80 in a 55, obviously deserved that one too. Been pulled over 5 times for doing 100+mph and never got even a ticket for it, have ran and got caught once (he found my car in the drive way 30 minutes later ), nothing happened. Can't count how many other times I have been pulled over for speeding just a little or just being out around 2-4am and they think something/anything is suspicious, not a problem with me.
Sorry for the long post.. Just cracks me up when I see "screw pigs" and the like coming from people. When in all honesty most people that say that were doing something illegal when they got busted and the cop did their job.
Of course there are sometimes when cops can be ****** (not against the law or your rights) and there are most certainly times when they do not allow you to exercise your rights, and in those times I don't see a problem standing up for yourself.. If you aren't doing anything seriously illegal (besides speeding/running a red light right when it turns/etc) then there isn't much reason for a cop to harass you about. They are people, just like us.

BigDaddyBry

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This was also an interesting vid, although it does not pertain to your particular situation, I'm sure there will be others, hopefully not more serious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

0235SS

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Try getting hit by a cop car and the cop trying to tell me to take it threw my insurance!

SSmokin99

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WTH! I really wanna hear this story.

Nimitz87

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for not breaking any laws you sure state otherwise...doing 100+ is breaking a law, and running from the cops? mr. perfect eh?

oh and sweet definition of "seriously illegal" does speeding = your 100+ mph jaunts going thru red lights?

Chad

djsanchez2

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Sorry to say but they side stepped your rights when they searched your car for one without asking and for two w/o stating they had probable cause to do so. They can and should not have been able to do that so easily. If they say that you refusing a search is probable cause then tell them to get a search warrant and you will wait. Most times they will back off and give you a ticket out of spite, if they can find something worth giving you a ticket for that is.

I would call the police station and ask to speak with the acting sgt. tell them you would like to file a complaint and that you would like for them to pull the video from the dash cam.

Lemons12- the OP's dilemma is not whether or not he did anything wrong, it is a matter of principal. He felt violated by those that are there to serve and protect him. What is so wrong with that? would i allow a search of my car IF they asked, yes because i know i have nothing to hide and i am comfortable being that compliant. You have to remember not everyone is comfortable with a random stranger rifling through their stuff for no apparent reason. I doubt it has anything to do with him hating the cops, as a matter of fact i don't remember him saying anything bad about the cops other than him expressing his feelings toward the way he was treated.

Dude that sucks, same goes for you 0235ss. Have them pull the dash cam vid if you can, if not find witnesses and take the county to court.

SunOfZ

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if you ever have a run in with what you think is an *** hole cop. dont even deal with him. decide right from the beginning if hes cool. if not only say one statement "i would like to speak to your sergeant". right then and there he will immediately have to call and request his sergeant to actually leave the station, come down to the scene, talk to you and the officer or officers separately, so he can figure out the situation then completely take over from there. now of course this doesn't mean your in the clear but it does mean you have a better chance of being dealt with fairly. ive used this tactic which was told to me by a friend who serves the LAPD and it does exist. but it is a little time consuming as you can imagine. my situation wasnt car related but rather being accused of vandalizing a local school. me and a few friends walking home late one night matched the description of vandals in the area. we were stopped searched and treated with horrible attitudes even though we were the most nice and cooperative suspects ever lol. one cop even asked my friend if he wanted to fight! haha of course he said no but after we realized these cops werent joking around. we then both said "we would like to speak to your sergeant". after they start to radio the station for the sergeant and we stay completely quiet the whole time. 15 min later he arrives in an suv, talks to both sides, we tell him our whole situation including where were coming from, where were going, where exactly we live, just everything. end of story he tells us to jump in his suv because hes escorting us to our residents. i havent used this tactic since but i certainly would again if im ever in a uncomfortable situation with some *** hole cops.

Jimmard

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I was told when I called the police station that they do not have video on their cars.

NB1-LSX

What? who doesn't have cameras in their patrol cars these days? IMO, that's probably asking for a lawsuit by itself, for failure to take action on an easily foreseeable problem.

Nimitz87

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plenty of cops don't have dash cams.

Chad

So*CalWS6

A P/O could have any reason to search ur car as long as they have one of the following three Probable cause (Example: the smell of weed, veh matching description in a crime), consent or if anyone in the car is on parole or probation. The officers should have told you why they searched your vehicle as well.

So*CalWS6

Very well said.

Jimmard

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They said I looked high and there was an empty water bottle in the back seat... After they were already pretty close to done searching my car and my cousin was asking questions is when they told me this.

So*CalWS6

There we go that was their PC. They searched ur car due to them believing that u were possibly under the influence of narcotics. By the way what Dept was it?

Jimmard

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Malibu police department. Dont they have to give me some sort of field sobriety test to determine whether or not I actually am under the influence of something before they search my car? Because if so, I always look high just because of the type of eyes I have, meaning my car can be searched anytime anywhere.

So*CalWS6

Yeah it sucks but thats the way it goes (Wear some shades). The officers don't have to give you an FST test unless they feel that one is necessary or they have evidence and they’re going to book you.

So*CalWS6

Oh and by the way Sheriffs run malibu. Their most likely the ones that pulled you over.

Skidog5150

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I believe he's correct it's the sherrif's department that covers Malibu.

Skidog5150

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I always get a kick out of people that say that since they know a cop then they know cops. My sister is a law student??? WTF, This makes you an expert..
Look Jimmard, I'm sorry you feel you were screwed with. In a perfect world only the bad guys would get pulled over and harassed. I'm sure you"re a good guy. Don't let this one incident get you totaly negative on the cops out there. They really are out there trying to do good. Peace.... now I'll take a deep breath and relax....

Jimmard

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I've never had a bad experience with a cop, but my cousin is the one that has me all riled up about this because he lives in topanga canyon and has been harassed 4 or 5 different times by cops just like this. He said he kept his cool because it was my car and not his, but in the past he has spoken up and they have actually handcuffed him, threw him in the back of the police car and told him to shut up while they searched his car. Meanwhile he's mad because they have no probable cause to search his car. It's probably just the area around there, he says the cops are really strict there. Like I said I work with cops on a daily basis and have nothing against them, but my cousin is the one that's really mad about this. I only posted it to see if my cousin had some reason to be mad. Me, I was neutral about the whole thing because I knew I had done nothing wrong, my cousin is just mad because he's sick of being harassed for no good reason.