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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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look at this http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant...499288343.html
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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those rims are fugly
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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looks like a good deal
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Def a good deal!
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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That's a good deal for sure!
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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I have thought about picking one of these up and sawping in a low mile lq4 but the only problem would be smog, i guess it would be better to just swap in an ls1.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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I have thought about picking one of these up and sawping in a low mile lq4 but the only problem would be smog, i guess it would be better to just swap in an ls1.
Why do you think smog would be an issue? I have smogged a iron block at a smog shop, it was a 5.3, but damn it smoged clean! I don't see why a clean/well running LQ4 wouldn't meet LS1 smog restrictions...
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
Why do you think smog would be an issue? I have smogged a iron block at a smog shop, it was a 5.3, but damn it smoged clean! I don't see why a clean/well running LQ4 wouldn't meet LS1 smog restrictions...
Because i would have to get it inspected with the new engine correct? I dont have a smog guy who will let anything pass.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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I was under the impression that when you do an engine swap you have to get it inspected. While a lq4 or something similar will look very much like an ls1 it will not get by the inspector. I would not be worried about sneaking an lq9 by the smog guy it is just the inspector that would be the problem.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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I was under the impression that when you do an engine swap you have to get it inspected. While a lq4 or something similar will look very much like an ls1 it will not get by the inspector. I would not be worried about sneaking an lq9 by the smog guy it is just the inspector that would be the problem.
Just swap it in and take it to the smog shop. No one will ever know it's not a LS1 is you are using a LS1/6 intake, LS1 front acc's, and LS1 headers. Trust me. My 5.3 in my '99 SS passed smog no problem. Looks identical...
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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but that is not a problem when the car comes up as a v6? I dont believe the v6 cars have the same emissions standards.

On a factory v8 car i think you could get away with a ls3, lq4 or whatever swap along those lines.
On a factory v6 car i think you would need an ls1 with the proper emissions equipment then have it inspected and certified and whatever before smog.

Dont know but that makes sense to me
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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FYI: http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...uidelines.html

The disconnect b/w you and SRJ is the fact that technically, you have to comply with what I linked above vs. the fact no tech would be able to tell what you did.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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but that is not a problem when the car comes up as a v6? I dont believe the v6 cars have the same emissions standards.

On a factory v8 car i think you could get away with a ls3, lq4 or whatever swap along those lines.
On a factory v6 car i think you would need an ls1 with the proper emissions equipment then have it inspected and certified and whatever before smog.

Dont know but that makes sense to me
See I was thinking LS1.

In the case of a v6 car, I think it would all depend on what the v6 standards are. I don't see them running super clean, but I could be wrong. Every time I've ever been to a smog station, they do the visual inspections, which just means that they look at whatever smog sticker you have in your engine bay and look to make sure that the AIR and EGR are where they are supposed to be and they will check under your car for cats. So intheory, if you have a LS1 radiator support with the LS1 smog sticker, the smog stuff will match the sticker and they will pass it visually. Then all you have to worry about is if the LQ4 will meet v6 emissions standards. I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
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Nice car, need to sell my T/A and pick one of these up. Rims are ugly but can probably get some decent money for em.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
FYI: http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...uidelines.html

The disconnect b/w you and SRJ is the fact that technically, you have to comply with what I linked above vs. the fact no tech would be able to tell what you did.
I will check that link out

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See I was thinking LS1.

In the case of a v6 car, I think it would all depend on what the v6 standards are. I don't see them running super clean, but I could be wrong. Every time I've ever been to a smog station, they do the visual inspections, which just means that they look at whatever smog sticker you have in your engine bay and look to make sure that the AIR and EGR are where they are supposed to be and they will check under your car for cats. So intheory, if you have a LS1 radiator support with the LS1 smog sticker, the smog stuff will match the sticker and they will pass it visually. Then all you have to worry about is if the LQ4 will meet v6 emissions standards. I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

I would not be surprised either.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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Nice car, need to sell my T/A and pick one of these up. Rims are ugly but can probably get some decent money for em.
I was just going to send you the link. It'd make a good project car.
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 11:00 PM
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You guys are all over thinking this. This car can be bought as a roller and have a LS1 swapped into it and pass smog no problem, assuming all emissions equipment are there and it blows the numbers. On top of that, An LQ4 or LQ9 is not going to matter either, because to the eye of the smog tech, it looks like an LS1 on the outside as Jason already mentioned with his 5.3 swapped SS.

Just because this roller for sale is a base coupe and not a Z28 or SS does not make any difference. All the smog techs look at, is the fact that they have a V8 Camaro in front of them. That is all the computer asks the tech for as well. It doesnt ask for sub model specific. It is acceptable to swap a V8 into an F-body that was a originally a V6 because the LS1 was an available option for that car. It can be smogged as normal without having to tell the technician anything other than you have a V8 Camaro. You don't have to say what it started life out as.

For good measure, you would obviously want to remove the model year sticker under the hood that says the car was originally equipped with a V6.
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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i picked this up last night, great project car... didn't come with those wheels tho lol
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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i picked this up last night, great project car... didn't come with those wheels tho lol
So this camaro is not going to be Donk? lol
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So this camaro is not going to be Donk? lol
nope gonna ditch the 22's life and stick with the 15's life
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