Torque Management Questions
Torque Management Questions I was wondering if anyone knew exactly how torque management and abuse mode work. For example; how many tables control torque management and what does it mean when they are cross multiplied by each other? when and where does it kill timing? What does torque vs. rpms mean? is it different for a corvette when compared to a camaro? and, when does it kick in if i have the car with traction control on, off or competition mode? This is applying to a 2001-2004 C5 with a stock ecu (since the 2001-2004 ecu are better than 1997-2000 and have more features)
What are you using for tuning and why do you need to mess with it? Trying to tune it for a pseudo launch control?
There are various tables that control TQ management.
Max Torque RPM vs Gear
vs. RPM
Tip In Torque
Spark Retard vs. % Torque Reduction
Torque Loss % vs. Spark Retard
and then the two tables under TCS Method:
Retard vs. RPM
Aggressive Retard vs. RPM
What to do with what is dependent on what you are looking to do.
There are various tables that control TQ management.
Max Torque RPM vs Gear
vs. RPM
Tip In Torque
Spark Retard vs. % Torque Reduction
Torque Loss % vs. Spark Retard
and then the two tables under TCS Method:
Retard vs. RPM
Aggressive Retard vs. RPM
What to do with what is dependent on what you are looking to do.
ive heard of torque management kicking in and killing a lot of timing on cars especially in drag racing under load due to traction with slicks. ive seen it kill power off the line and after the 2-3shift. anyway to prevent that?
Yeah... Turn it off.
This was taken from HPTuners message board in reference to a truck, but the same applies in your vehicle for the most part.
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23766
This was taken from HPTuners message board in reference to a truck, but the same applies in your vehicle for the most part.
http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23766
Okay, to COMPLETELY remove torque management, follow these instructions below. Keep in mind, zeroing out the torque management on the trans will likely result in a sloppy 1-2 shift at WOT. Oddly enough, some of the newer classic Silverado/Sierra trucks already have the Torque Reduction zeroed out on non-tow/haul mode. Also, yhere is some redundancy in doing some of these below, but I listed everything, regardless.
Engine, Torque Management, General:
Maximum Torque
RPM vs. Gear - Max out
vs. RPM - Max out
Max Torque
Max Torque - Max to 640
Tip In Torque - Max out
Trans Input Max - Max out
Trans Output Max - Max out
Front Axle Max - Max out
Front Propshaft Max - Max out
Rear Axle Max - Max out
Rear Propshaft Max - Max out
ETC Limits
ETC TPS Max - Max out
Spark Retard
vs. Torque Reduction - Zero out
Torque Loss %
vs. Spark Retard - Zero out
Engine, Torque Management, Abuse:
Drivetrain Abuse
RPM > - Max out
Speed < - Zero out
timer vs. Trans Temp - Zero out
Trans, Torque Management:
Abuse Mode
Enabled - Set to Disabled
RPM - Max out
TPS - Max out
Speed - Zero out
Torque Reduction - Zero out
Torque Reduction
Normal - Zero out
Performance (aka Tow/Haul mode) - Zero out
I hope this helps!
Engine, Torque Management, General:
Maximum Torque
RPM vs. Gear - Max out
vs. RPM - Max out
Max Torque
Max Torque - Max to 640
Tip In Torque - Max out
Trans Input Max - Max out
Trans Output Max - Max out
Front Axle Max - Max out
Front Propshaft Max - Max out
Rear Axle Max - Max out
Rear Propshaft Max - Max out
ETC Limits
ETC TPS Max - Max out
Spark Retard
vs. Torque Reduction - Zero out
Torque Loss %
vs. Spark Retard - Zero out
Engine, Torque Management, Abuse:
Drivetrain Abuse
RPM > - Max out
Speed < - Zero out
timer vs. Trans Temp - Zero out
Trans, Torque Management:
Abuse Mode
Enabled - Set to Disabled
RPM - Max out
TPS - Max out
Speed - Zero out
Torque Reduction - Zero out
Torque Reduction
Normal - Zero out
Performance (aka Tow/Haul mode) - Zero out
I hope this helps!
