I like my old Land Cruiser, but I wouldn't buy a newer/U.S. made Toyota. From the articles I've read, much of the issues revolved around them skimping on the quality of parts in U.S. production vehicles to save a buck.

 

you can look at it that way, or you can think of it as look at what happens when toyota buys american made parts to try and boost american economy.

none of the japanese made toyotas are affected by the accelerator recall. only those made in america that used the american based electronics.

 

I don't think it has as much to do with WHERE the parts were made, as HOW the parts were made. Clearly...the U.S. production parts were not made to the same standard as the Japanese parts. Many of the fixes that were discussed involved "shims." That says to me that the tolerances/level of detail that should have gone into producing those parts didn't happen.

That being said, Toyota was responsible to ensure that the quality of those parts were up to par. They failed to do that and they're paying for it now.

 

never did before, even less now

They are pieces of junk and the american public is too retarded to see it

 

How old are you??? You have read all of the above posts and this is your reply.........

 

Very true! Its not the fault of American production or industry. It is still Toyota who creates the programing for their electronics. (Which isnt Japan supposed to be know for having far supperior technological machines and electronics???). It is also Toyota that tells the American companies what to build and how to built it. Quality controll is still on Toyota and I can see if they skimped there a bit to save a few bucks. Hell, they are bragging about saving $100M by telling people its the gas pedal and floor mats that are the problems. Not their pattented software.

 

At the end of the day americans will get fired and layed off for this though...

Pretty crappy.

 

Well hopfully people will buy stock in GM and Ford and buy more of their cars, so in the end, at least out moreny will stay here. Maybe those autoworkers can get jobs at dealerships if business picks up!

 

Sorry if I'm resurrecting a dead thread.

My faith in Toyota is gone. I had a Scion tC, loved it, but it got destroyed, (my fault). Got replaced by the current car. 06 Subie WRX TR, much better car imo. Now I'm really glad I didn't buy another Toy product.

I have also convinced my Mom that after the Prius, I know you guys hate 'em, as do I, to not buy a Toyota. She said she had already made that decision, covering up an issue you knew about for 5 yrs, not easy to look past. She has owned Toyota's since 1979!

Not releasing info from there cars "black boxes" is a b/s cover up. Now knowing that the the shim in the gas pedal assembly may not be the only problem with gas pedal, another cover up? Then the Gen III Prius having to be recalled due to an issue also and having to be reprogrammed so the brake pedal over-rides the gad pedal?!?

Quality is gone. I can't say I will be domestic faithful, some of my favorite cars are not American made, but another Toyota will not purchased. GTO or CTS-V here I come!!!

 

GM just announced this week that they want to keep open 600 of the ~2,000 dealers that they'd slated to close. I would imagine that Toyota's recent ~9% sales decline has helped both GM and Ford. Just my $.02...

 

Thats a good thing but most of the people in tricounty area are employed by toyota

 

I think that building cheap cars in the 90's is how Toyota became so large. Now that the vail has been pulled back, everyone can finally see that Toyota is no Oz.

I tried to convince my brother that he should sell his 08' Tacoma and get a Colorado or Silverado (which is what he considered before). He agreed that he should sell. But now thier resale value has tanked, its not worth it to sell.

 

Well its official! Toyota has been found guilty of know that their cars were defective, sold them anyways, and tried to cover it up!!!

Toyota is being fine $16 Million by the government and there may be more on the way. Not to mention the roughly $1 Billion its going to cost to do the recall and now even more because if I remember my Business Law class, that if you enter into a contract under false pretenses (like buying a new car at a dealer and them telling you its safe), then you can sue them and either get a new car that has been "repaired" or turn it back into the dealer for a full refund of your purchase price.

 

Any way you cut it, they're going to get hosed. They have no one to blame but themselves. It will take a long time for their image to recover from this (if it ever recovers). Hell...it took Ford decades to get over the Pinto and other shitboxes they made.