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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Well, i've had this LS1 for a year now and im finally getting ready to build it. It was a complete LONG bock with 40k miles with all the acc. I stripped it down to a short block. I bought some 243's. My goal is to build 450HP to the rear wheels. The engine is a 2001-2002 LS1 from a SS Camaro. I want to drive this around town and cross country. I plan on taking a trip on Route 66 end to end. Opinions are very welcome on how to achieve my 450HP to the rear wheels. I want a nice cruiser and a cam that wont beat me down with idle or lope.

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Vic jr and 750HP carb
custom 1-3/4' headers
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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Talk to Ryne at CMS...he has put together more than a few combo's that will satisfy your goals.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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The biggest horsepower factor in your build will be your cam selection. I would get a custom grind.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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More realistic would be around 400 to the wheels to help driveability if ur taking it across the country. U might also want to state what trans/rear u have.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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^ he mentioned it is a 700r

It all depends on what you think is drivable, some guys daily drive cars with 240 duration cams and think they are fine. Some people think a 224 is too big to daily drive.

Odds are you will end up with a cam that is in the low 230's with a tight lsa like 114 and i am not sure if you will hit 450 to the wheels.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Oops ya sorry didn't see that but ya that's preety much what I was thinking, something mildy agressive but its all up to his preference
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Thanks for the replies guys, I was told a 228R or a 113lsa might do it?
rearend is a build 12 bolt, no worries there. How do these stock Z06 Vettes get 505 hp and very drivable?
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Originally Posted by h8tulooze
How do these stock Z06 Vettes get 505 hp and very drivable?
displacement and superior cylinder head design.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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displacement and superior cylinder head design.
I understand cubs, but don't the Z06 run 243's?, older vettes? I will do a slight port and polish on the heads.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by h8tulooze
I understand cubs, but don't the Z06 run 243's?, older vettes? I will do a slight port and polish on the heads.
the 405hp zo6 used 243's, and you will need a hell of a lot more then a slight port and polish to get near 450 to the wheels through an auto with a mild cam.
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Originally Posted by h8tulooze
I understand cubs, but don't the Z06 run 243's?, older vettes? I will do a slight port and polish on the heads.
Ya the c5z06 with 243s made 405 at the crank, so to makin 45 more than that plus the difference at the wheels will be a hard thing to do. The ls7 on the other hand makes ur 505 hp at the crank but its a 427 with a bitchin top end.
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Old Jul 10, 2010 | 11:47 PM
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So with a 600" lift cam, 10.5 comp, port and polish, headers,Vic jr, 750HP carb it wont make 500hp at the crank?

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Old Jul 11, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Maybe? Its about a 13-15% drive train loss through a manual...even more through an auto. You'll need more compression, a really agressive/kinda peaky cam and Better heads.450 is what guys shoot for with a 6spd with afr 205's or stage 3 LS6 heads with aggressive 230+ cams.
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