New smog test for 2011?!
place I use will come down in price or won't be necessary. 
11-17-2010, 10:43 PM
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So I finished my smog class today and was talking to the Referee who teaches the class and asked him about tricking monitors into passing(didn't mention much detail, he knows my background and is cool with it) and went on to say that the smog database will notice calibration I.D. changes, and fail car's based on that. I don't have much experience on a smog dyno but he said anything altered (HP tuners) will be noticed and fail, reguardless of all monitors completed. No bueno.
11-17-2010, 11:04 PM
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So I finished my smog class today and was talking to the Referee who teaches the class and asked him about tricking monitors into passing(didn't mention much detail, he knows my background and is cool with it) and went on to say that the smog database will notice calibration I.D. changes, and fail car's based on that. I don't have much experience on a smog dyno but he said anything altered (HP tuners) will be noticed and fail, reguardless of all monitors completed. No bueno.
11-17-2010, 11:32 PM
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I read the entire AB2289 bill and it does not go into exact detail about the OBD II testing procedures themselves. Also, I couldn't find anything on the BAR website itself.
How would the scan be able to detect calibration changes through OBDII without having proprietary software from the car manufacturers? What if the dealer reflashed someones ECM and the original ID changes? I don't know enough about HP Tuners to know if it generates a completely different calibration ID from what a Tech2 would. Can anyone confirm this? Or is possible to mask the ID with a different one as to not flag the smog computer.
How would the scan be able to detect calibration changes through OBDII without having proprietary software from the car manufacturers? What if the dealer reflashed someones ECM and the original ID changes? I don't know enough about HP Tuners to know if it generates a completely different calibration ID from what a Tech2 would. Can anyone confirm this? Or is possible to mask the ID with a different one as to not flag the smog computer.
11-18-2010, 02:36 AM
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So I finished my smog class today and was talking to the Referee who teaches the class and asked him about tricking monitors into passing(didn't mention much detail, he knows my background and is cool with it) and went on to say that the smog database will notice calibration I.D. changes, and fail car's based on that. I don't have much experience on a smog dyno but he said anything altered (HP tuners) will be noticed and fail, reguardless of all monitors completed. No bueno.
11-18-2010, 01:56 PM
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that doesnt make any sense at all... cuz what about this say you have a procharger kit that is CARB legal... once you retune it your saying that its not gonna pass because of the tune???? looks like we need more info
11-18-2010, 06:46 PM
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Yup. Thats their aim, no more modded cars, period. Thats what they really want to do. Also making everyone buy a newer car is in their agenda as well. Doesnt look good for the future. Modding will soon be limited to better batteries for your nissan leaf! Lol.
11-18-2010, 08:16 PM
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Smog out here as well as a few other things is making me seriously consider living in a completely different state. ... Everytime I see those commercials that advertise California with A-list celebs, I need to change the channel. It makes me pretty upset.
11-19-2010, 12:04 PM
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So I finished my smog class today and was talking to the Referee who teaches the class and asked him about tricking monitors into passing(didn't mention much detail, he knows my background and is cool with it) and went on to say that the smog database will notice calibration I.D. changes, and fail car's based on that. I don't have much experience on a smog dyno but he said anything altered (HP tuners) will be noticed and fail, reguardless of all monitors completed. No bueno.
11-19-2010, 04:58 PM
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i am sorry but he is talking about of his ***, there is no way a state agency computer system is going to put in the know how and time for every car out there to be able to see Calibration ID changes... the calibration ID on the hptuners will likely come up the same, the only system that can tell the difference will be a tech2 or similar (GM)
11-20-2010, 08:38 PM
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i am sorry but he is talking about of his ***, there is no way a state agency computer system is going to put in the know how and time for every car out there to be able to see Calibration ID changes... the calibration ID on the hptuners will likely come up the same, the only system that can tell the difference will be a tech2 or similar (GM)
I'll have to see it to believe it, but this guy is a connected source.
11-22-2010, 02:41 PM
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Until the BAR and the state release the actual test guidelines, this is all speculation at this point. And Im sure that things stated now in the bill could even be amended as it gets closer to the enforcement date in 2013.
02-14-2011, 03:24 PM
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So I finished my smog class today and was talking to the Referee who teaches the class and asked him about tricking monitors into passing(didn't mention much detail, he knows my background and is cool with it) and went on to say that the smog database will notice calibration I.D. changes, and fail car's based on that. I don't have much experience on a smog dyno but he said anything altered (HP tuners) will be noticed and fail, reguardless of all monitors completed. No bueno.
Do you know if they're comparing to the original OEM CVN's, or are they comparing CVN's from successive/previous tests...?
02-19-2011, 04:10 PM
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You aint seen nothing yet, wait until AB32 starts to kick in.
Once my neighbor sells his house, I'll sell mine, the day we are
driving away with a full moving van of our belongings, will be one of the happiest days of my life.
It will be nice to move into a state where I can do what-ever-**** I want
to do to with my own cars.
Hopefully California won't fall into the ocean before we are out of here.
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You aint seen nothing yet, wait until AB32 starts to kick in.
Once my neighbor sells his house, I'll sell mine, the day we are
driving away with a full moving van of our belongings, will be one of the happiest days of my life.
It will be nice to move into a state where I can do what-ever-**** I want
to do to with my own cars.
Hopefully California won't fall into the ocean before we are out of here.
.