New smog test for 2011?!
10-18-2010, 06:51 PM
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New smog test for 2011?! So how is this going to work, OBDII computer test only?
How much easier will it be for us to now pass modded cars?
How much easier will it be for us to now pass modded cars?
10-18-2010, 07:51 PM
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Arnold signed bill AB2289 in September, and the bill won't go into effect until Jan 1st, 2013. The sniffer test goes away for any car after model year 2000, but the visual test is still exactly the same. Instead of the sniffer, a OBD-II check will be done, and you can pass even w/ 2 readiness codes still present. As far as mods go, any cam will pass now, as long as it is tuned correctly, but LTs, high flow cats, certain air intakes, etc, will still get you a fail.
The good thing is that a lot more power can be made now without having to worry about the sniffer so much. Here's the offical language: http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill...chaptered.html
The good thing is that a lot more power can be made now without having to worry about the sniffer so much. Here's the offical language: http://leginfo.ca.gov/pub/09-10/bill...chaptered.html
10-18-2010, 08:26 PM
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I beg to differ, I find it easier to sneak some of the visual stuff. As long as your car is subtle and you keep your mods subtle you can sneak stuff by pretty easily.
You also have to pick and choose your smog places, the place I use has never checked my cat(s) at all. I used to smog a car with a home built exhaust with aftermarket cat, complete home built hard intercooler piping, an after-market intercooler (it was a stock turbo car) etc.
You also have to pick and choose your smog places, the place I use has never checked my cat(s) at all. I used to smog a car with a home built exhaust with aftermarket cat, complete home built hard intercooler piping, an after-market intercooler (it was a stock turbo car) etc.
10-18-2010, 09:20 PM
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I beg to differ, I find it easier to sneak some of the visual stuff. As long as your car is subtle and you keep your mods subtle you can sneak stuff by pretty easily.
You also have to pick and choose your smog places, the place I use has never checked my cat(s) at all. I used to smog a car with a home built exhaust with aftermarket cat, complete home built hard intercooler piping, an after-market intercooler (it was a stock turbo car) etc.
You also have to pick and choose your smog places, the place I use has never checked my cat(s) at all. I used to smog a car with a home built exhaust with aftermarket cat, complete home built hard intercooler piping, an after-market intercooler (it was a stock turbo car) etc.
10-18-2010, 11:34 PM
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Hmm, I remember back in the day. My car was H/C (TSP 231/237 LSA114) with ORY-pipe and magnaflow, and MAC midlengths, EGR blocked off and removed. Also no AIR pump. And I got it "read" in Illinois, cause you didnt have to do the roller tests. It was camming in the enclosed garage, and stinking up the entire place! lmao but it passed! But I think they had a rule of 4 lights. So you could fail 4 readiness checks, and still be fine.
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10-20-2010, 08:45 PM
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So my car is a 1999 with a CA approved 2001 engine. It shows up this way in the smog test computers. I'm guessing that the car will still be smogged as a 2001 Camaro instead of a 1999 Firebird (as it was after the swap), and because the motor is from an '01 will conform to the 2000+ standards... Right? If so, awesome. If not, then California truly sucks.
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10-20-2010, 09:13 PM
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The OBDII check will be different as well. It will be able to tell if any parameters have been changed on the emissions systems including if they are off. To me looks like it will be harder to pass now since they will be able to see anything in the ecu that is outside of stock parameters. Its not a simple code check, emissions readiness test like we all wish. The bill says the details for new procedures will be out at a later date so we dont know yet exactly the extent of the new checks but its not gonna help us out, trust me. I hope Im wrong. Anyone else read all 18 pages?
10-20-2010, 09:22 PM
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BTW, the bill will allow more funds for more state referees and any cars that are difficult to check can be sent to a referee. Since any real power mods require tuning of the ecu I have a feeling they might just start to look into the ecu itself, since smog checks can be cheated. I think the new procedures are gonna require getting into the basic processor instructions (hexadecimal code) but like some guys said, hopefully with good software and a good tune the adaptives should be fine anyway.
10-21-2010, 05:22 AM
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10-21-2010, 11:42 AM
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[QUOTE=HellaciousA;14007585]Arnold signed bill AB2289 in September, and the bill won't go into effect until Jan 1st, 2013. The sniffer test goes away for any car after model year 2000, but the visual test is still exactly the same. Instead of the sniffer, a OBD-II check will be done, and you can pass even w/ 2 readiness codes still present. As far as mods go, any cam will pass now, as long as it is tuned correctly, but LTs, high flow cats, certain air intakes, etc, will still get you a fail.
QUOTE]I disagree, honestly the bigger the cam the harder to pass.
1. have gutted cats. Police cannot determine if their real or fake. That's 90 percent of the state refs
2. run a e cutout with a stock exhaust . When you see a P.O just close it and your good.
3. obey the laws when your driving around and you should be cool.