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Old 10-25-2011, 11:07 PM
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i have a 99 trans am ls1 stock i want to drop a ms4 cam in..my car is auto so i know im need a 3500 stall for the cam.my cars a dalily driver but i also want strip to.so what do i need to put the ms4 cam magic stick?do i need lifters...?idk im new at this so pleas help thanks.
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is that your only option? as in a ms..
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Did you already by the cam? If not I am sure there are better cams out there; I have been in a ms4 m6 car and I really did not like how it ran. You will need new valve springs, I would buy new lifters and hardened pushrods, the stall is a must. The car will run a lot faster with the stall, buy a yank ss3600 stall. If you are not doing it your self and you need a shop I would go to http://cunningham-motorsports.com/ they really know a lot about building lsx based engines.

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for a dd that is a really big cam. The largest i would want to go is somewhere in the mid 230's. With a cam that big you will also need longtubes and a dyno tune. But to really make it shine you will want some 4.10's and a fast 90 intake or something similar.

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I would not run that cam on a DD, you need so much to make it work right that it wont be DD friendly. Have EPS grind a cam for you, thats what I would do
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Stick the MS4 cam in your throttle body, you get more power that way.
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what you need is a different can. Google Cunningham motorsports, he is in your area and does great things with ls cars. I will say to get an ms3 at most for a stock cube ls motor, or ask ryne at CMS to spec you a cam. it is pricey to do so I would say to have close to $2000 saved up to do it.
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wel thanks all of u that replyed helps alot.the ms4 i have not bought yet and i know ryne he is pricey but is really good at what he does.i need more opions for cams.i dont want to put in the wrong one and pay all that money and not be happy wit it..in the long run im thinking a super charger.so i want whats best for that.the wife hooks me up with the goodys.
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You can look into getting a BruteSpeed or ECS cam. They are specifically ground for supercharger applications. Or you can get a custom grind.
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Originally Posted by Downz13
wel thanks all of u that replyed helps alot.the ms4 i have not bought yet and i know ryne he is pricey but is really good at what he does.i need more opions for cams.i dont want to put in the wrong one and pay all that money and not be happy wit it..in the long run im thinking a super charger.so i want whats best for that.the wife hooks me up with the goodys.
the ms4 is not a good cam if your going to supercharge it.
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ok can u help me take the right path.and let me know what cam and other parts i need..thanks with in two years ill have a super charger.i want my car ready for it
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Why not a ms3? That's what im running and luv it and I dd my car
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Originally Posted by juniorz28
Why not a ms3? That's what im running and luv it and I dd my car
Cause it's not a good cam for a supercharger.

Plus OP which supercharger do you want? 1 makes boost off idle and the other makes boost gradually, I believe it is twin screw or roots style that is off idle and centrifugal that builds up so you want the right stall to match that also. To give you an idea of a blower cam 217/230 118LSA, you don't want a LSA lower than 115 from what I'm told, bleeds off pressure and you don't want that . . . course I could be wrong lol
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Originally Posted by Downz13
ok can u help me take the right path.and let me know what cam and other parts i need..thanks with in two years ill have a super charger.i want my car ready for it
well do you want to keep the car smog legal or no?
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Originally Posted by King Nothing
Cause it's not a good cam for a supercharger.

Plus OP which supercharger do you want? 1 makes boost off idle and the other makes boost gradually, I believe it is twin screw or roots style that is off idle and centrifugal that builds up so you want the right stall to match that also. To give you an idea of a blower cam 217/230 118LSA, you don't want a LSA lower than 115 from what I'm told, bleeds off pressure and you don't want that . . . course I could be wrong lol
seeing as how it is a 99 ta a twinscrew is not available he is only able to use centrifugal.
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the smog i have people that will hook me up so if it wont pass its all good.
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but like i said supercharges later.i just need help going the right path..but i also want a cam that gives the right power for my engine.i have buddys that have big cam and they said they wish they went with a smaller one...
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something like a ls6 cam would work well, a LPE GT2-3 207/220 .571/.578 118.5 would work well or even like a 224/224 on 114 would work ok also.

First things i would do though is a lid and full exhaust along with maybe a ls6 intake but also for the price of all that your already a good ways there to a blower setup.
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ok so get a ls6 mantafold and a ls6 intank,longtube headers and a ls6 cam..do i also need lifters?and if so thats all i need?thanks for helpen me... i want that loud cracklen noise will the ls6 cam make that?
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