Has anyone heard of this new Police device
10-28-2011 | 01:45 PM
#21
Guys, our rites are NOT being violated, lol.
If you don't have anything to hide, then giving consent isn't an issue, because you don't have anything to hide.
If you do have something to hide, then well...you only have yourself to blame I suppose. It's not the officers' fault if you get caught doing something illegal. Like if you're street racing, and you get pulled over for it. It's your fault, not the cops'.
It's and illegal search if taken without consent or a search warrant and will be inadmissible evidence. Also, I'm sure developers can create aps to bypass or shutdown a phone in these situations.
10-28-2011 | 02:07 PM
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I couldn't imagine every cop having this technology. It's going to cost too much to equip every officer with it. Why spend that money when we have a deficit? I see it being used in crime labs, that way each city only has to purchase 1-2 instead of hundreds. Just my .02
10-28-2011 | 02:37 PM
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So you would consent to a cavity search? If you have nothing to hide then I guess you're cool with it
It's and illegal search if taken without consent or a search warrant and will be inadmissible evidence. Also, I'm sure developers can create aps to bypass or shutdown a phone in these situations.
It's and illegal search if taken without consent or a search warrant and will be inadmissible evidence. Also, I'm sure developers can create aps to bypass or shutdown a phone in these situations.
It is not an illegal search if you say yes. They can always ask to search, and this is your right to say no. You've missed the whole point that they can't just scan someone's phone from their own wireless device. They have to physically have it in their possession.
10-28-2011 | 04:19 PM
#24
Hahaha, a cavity search?! Sure, if the situation was that intense and I thought that I could clear myself of being a suspect and help in that way of an investigation, then yes I would.
It is not an illegal search if you say yes. They can always ask to search, and this is your right to say no. You've missed the whole point that they can't just scan someone's phone from their own wireless device. They have to physically have it in their possession.
It is not an illegal search if you say yes. They can always ask to search, and this is your right to say no. You've missed the whole point that they can't just scan someone's phone from their own wireless device. They have to physically have it in their possession.
Although you seem a bit eager for a cavity search
I don't think the majority would be cool with searches or seizures without warrants.
10-28-2011 | 04:37 PM
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Thanks for the advice on looking up the definition though
10-28-2011 | 05:21 PM
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"The MSP only uses the DEDs if a search warrant is obtained or if the person possessing the mobile device gives consent. The department’s internal directive is that the DEDs only be used by MSP specialty teams on criminal cases, such as crimes against children."
The DEDs are not being used to extract citizens’ personal information during routine traffic stops.
Guys, our rites are NOT being violated, lol.
If you don't have anything to hide, then giving consent isn't an issue, because you don't have anything to hide.
If you do have something to hide, then well...you only have yourself to blame I suppose. It's not the officers' fault if you get caught doing something illegal. Like if you're street racing, and you get pulled over for it. It's your fault, not the cops'.
The DEDs are not being used to extract citizens’ personal information during routine traffic stops.
Guys, our rites are NOT being violated, lol.
If you don't have anything to hide, then giving consent isn't an issue, because you don't have anything to hide.
If you do have something to hide, then well...you only have yourself to blame I suppose. It's not the officers' fault if you get caught doing something illegal. Like if you're street racing, and you get pulled over for it. It's your fault, not the cops'.
Hahaha, a cavity search?! Sure, if the situation was that intense and I thought that I could clear myself of being a suspect and help in that way of an investigation, then yes I would.
It is not an illegal search if you say yes. They can always ask to search, and this is your right to say no. You've missed the whole point that they can't just scan someone's phone from their own wireless device. They have to physically have it in their possession.
It is not an illegal search if you say yes. They can always ask to search, and this is your right to say no. You've missed the whole point that they can't just scan someone's phone from their own wireless device. They have to physically have it in their possession.
*sigh.
I refuse to entertain the attention of people like yourself.
10-28-2011 | 06:06 PM
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10-28-2011 | 08:08 PM
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It's cool man, I just don't agree with your logic for consenting to searches. No hard feelings 
Good article on the encryption. Looks like the cops won't be messing with your phone unless you are already under arrest(nothing new). The bad thing is that some individuals will think cops have the right to go through your phone during traffic stops based on misinformation/rumor.
"As such, if you are arrested or detained by a law enforcement officer, you cannot lawfully be compelled to tell the officer anything other than your basic identifying information—even if the officer has not read you the Miranda warning." 5th Amendment
"As such, if you are arrested or detained by a law enforcement officer, you cannot lawfully be compelled to tell the officer anything other than your basic identifying information—even if the officer has not read you the Miranda warning." 5th Amendment
10-28-2011 | 08:29 PM
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It's cool man, I just don't agree with your logic for consenting to searches. No hard feelings
Good article on the encryption. Looks like the cops won't be messing with your phone unless you are already under arrest(nothing new). The bad thing is that some individuals will think cops have the right to go through your phone during traffic stops based on misinformation/rumor.
"As such, if you are arrested or detained by a law enforcement officer, you cannot lawfully be compelled to tell the officer anything other than your basic identifying information—even if the officer has not read you the Miranda warning." 5th Amendment
Good article on the encryption. Looks like the cops won't be messing with your phone unless you are already under arrest(nothing new). The bad thing is that some individuals will think cops have the right to go through your phone during traffic stops based on misinformation/rumor.
"As such, if you are arrested or detained by a law enforcement officer, you cannot lawfully be compelled to tell the officer anything other than your basic identifying information—even if the officer has not read you the Miranda warning." 5th Amendment
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...border-search/
"There is absolutely never a reason to give up one ounce of freedom for the sake of security." Ron Paul
10-28-2011 | 09:20 PM
#31
It's cool man, I just don't agree with your logic for consenting to searches. No hard feelings
Good article on the encryption. Looks like the cops won't be messing with your phone unless you are already under arrest(nothing new). The bad thing is that some individuals will think cops have the right to go through your phone during traffic stops based on misinformation/rumor.
"As such, if you are arrested or detained by a law enforcement officer, you cannot lawfully be compelled to tell the officer anything other than your basic identifying information—even if the officer has not read you the Miranda warning." 5th Amendment
Good article on the encryption. Looks like the cops won't be messing with your phone unless you are already under arrest(nothing new). The bad thing is that some individuals will think cops have the right to go through your phone during traffic stops based on misinformation/rumor.
"As such, if you are arrested or detained by a law enforcement officer, you cannot lawfully be compelled to tell the officer anything other than your basic identifying information—even if the officer has not read you the Miranda warning." 5th Amendment
10-28-2011 | 09:30 PM
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10-29-2011 | 02:05 PM
#33
Okay, anyone who actually believes that cops wouldn't run around abusing this technology to illicitly gather peoples' private information really has their head up their as*. I mean, we have narcotics officers selling drugs on the street. We have police lab workers using drugs seized in drug busts! Are you kidding me!
10-29-2011 | 03:46 PM
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Okay, anyone who actually believes that cops wouldn't run around abusing this technology to illicitly gather peoples' private information really has their head up their as*. I mean, we have narcotics officers selling drugs on the street. We have police lab workers using drugs seized in drug busts! Are you kidding me!
10-29-2011 | 04:00 PM
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One (among many) of the problems with government as its set up today is that too many do nothing about it. They rather fall into the trap of "it doesn't matter, my vote doesn't count, can't do anything about it, etc......" Very rare do you hear those in the establishment try to change or re-educate people to think differently. They rather sit back and watch the masses devolve into separate groups that spend more time fighting each other. One problem that I see with an abuse of something of this nature, too many will turn to the government to protect/save us from this. Thus, handing even more freedom/power over to another government body in the names of protecting us. The saddest part is too many will happily drink the Kool-Aid when the feds step in to "protect our rights' and pass more laws.
10-30-2011 | 06:54 AM
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