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Old 10-11-2012, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SSMOKIN_Y2KSS
well im not gonna say alot. but i am a toyota technician and i can vouch for the tundra. its a badass truck. and more importantly reliable. with massive low end torque. im not saying its better then an american truck but im just saying it can hold its own and in its class i belive it will outperform 1500s. a few years ago i would not have said the same thing. on that note. i dont know about any commercials where they compare it to a 2500 series truck. however have u been in a new tundra? they are the size of a 2500 series truck. no joke. there is talk about a diesel in the near future aswell..
Since you are a Toyota tech, do you know if there is a TSB for driveshafts breaking on tundras? My buddy has broken 3 on his and I know 2 other guys who have broken theirs. Don't get me wrong my buddy beats on his truck. Its a RCSB with the 5.7 and he has a 150 shot, tune, and exhaust. Granted I know the truck wasn't designed for that but I have had other brands live through stuff they never should have either.

I would say that with that on the truck it would be equivalent to pulling an f-body on a trailer. If so, I wouldn't want to be pulling something and the driveshaft say bye-bye.
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I talked to the guy that will be driving the Toyota truck yesterday, he stated that in fact the whole thing does weigh 297,000 lbs. and all the other trucks they tried just spun their wheels. The Toyota will have a weight block of 2500 lbs. in the bed, as did all the others.
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Originally Posted by SSMOKIN_Y2KSS
i dont know about any commercials where they compare it to a 2500 series truck.
You'll never see the Tundra being compared to any 2500 series trucks....American ones anyway. Foreign car companies cannot do any camparisons to American car company here in America. Just like American car companies cannot compare to imports in other countries. When's the last time you saw an import car commercial talking about American car companies?? You won't. It's kinda like home field advantage.
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Originally Posted by SSMOKIN_Y2KSS
well im not gonna say alot. but i am a toyota technician and i can vouch for the tundra. its a badass truck. and more importantly reliable. with massive low end torque. im not saying its better then an american truck but im just saying it can hold its own and in its class i belive it will outperform 1500s. a few years ago i would not have said the same thing. on that note. i dont know about any commercials where they compare it to a 2500 series truck. however have u been in a new tundra? they are the size of a 2500 series truck. no joke. there is talk about a diesel in the near future aswell..
I found those vids.



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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
The physical size and everything on the tundra screams 2500 though, so it would be more fitting to compare it to a 2500 truck. There was even a commercial that Toyota was even comparing it to a 2500 series truck.

One more thing.......Don't send a Tundra to do a Sierra's job!
Is it really comparable though? The sprint rates and ride quality are that of a 1500. Sure the motor has enough *****, the only 1500 that can keep up is the chevy with the 6.2 which is their HD gas motor. The tundra spanks all those other motors pretty badly. Now throw bigger springs, upgraded suspension parts, taller gears, bigger tranny ect... just like everyone else does and im sure it would do fine as a 2500.

One kickass thing about the tundra is you can buy the trd supercharger and still keep your factory warranty with a 500+ HP truck. Same goes with their headers, intake, and exhaust if you want even more.
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On paper the 2012 1500 Ram 5.7 has slightly more hp and tq. Towing capacity is equal. I like the dodge more; I guess it helps when you own one. But I also manage 21mpg if I am not hard on the throttle. I would have to say the Toyota and Ram are really close to equal but the dodge looks better.
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
Is it really comparable though? The sprint rates and ride quality are that of a 1500. Sure the motor has enough *****, the only 1500 that can keep up is the chevy with the 6.2 which is their HD gas motor. The tundra spanks all those other motors pretty badly. Now throw bigger springs, upgraded suspension parts, taller gears, bigger tranny ect... just like everyone else does and im sure it would do fine as a 2500.

One kickass thing about the tundra is you can buy the trd supercharger and still keep your factory warranty with a 500+ HP truck. Same goes with their headers, intake, and exhaust if you want even more.
The 6.2 doesn't just come in the HD's you can get it in an extended or crew cab 1500.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
The 6.2 doesn't just come in the HD's you can get it in an extended or crew cab 1500.
I stated that in my post.
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
I stated that in my post.
My bad, I read it too fast and misunderstood what you typed.
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Originally Posted by Dyno Don
I talked to the guy that will be driving the Toyota truck yesterday, he stated that in fact the whole thing does weigh 297,000 lbs. and all the other trucks they tried just spun their wheels. The Toyota will have a weight block of 2500 lbs. in the bed, as did all the others.
This Toyota engineer explained that it has a limited slip system on both front and rear axles to aid in traction. Perhaps that's one of the reasons the other trucks just spun their wheels. I'd also like to know how Toyota tested a towing weight of 297,000 lbs and what trucks they tried to use. http://jalopnik.com/5951454/how-a-56...-space-shuttle
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Originally Posted by ZexGX
This Toyota engineer explained that it has a limited slip system on both front and rear axles to aid in traction. Perhaps that's one of the reasons the other trucks just spun their wheels. I'd also like to know how Toyota tested a towing weight of 297,000 lbs and what trucks they tried to use. http://jalopnik.com/5951454/how-a-56...-space-shuttle
Yeah me to, i assume it was in 4 low?
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Sure. I didn't even see the body flex or hear the engine rev. I bet those dollies had a hidden motor somewhere pushing the Tundra. I'm a truck driver with an International with over 1,000 lbs-ft or torque and the body and frame flexes under a load...especially grossing 80,000 lbs.

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This Toyota engineer explained that it has a limited slip system on both front and rear axles to aid in traction. Perhaps that's one of the reasons the other trucks just spun their wheels. I'd also like to know how Toyota tested a towing weight of 297,000 lbs and what trucks they tried to use. http://jalopnik.com/5951454/how-a-56...-space-shuttle
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Originally Posted by chevystyle
Sure. I didn't even see the body flex or hear the engine rev. I bet those dollies had a hidden motor somewhere pushing the Tundra. I'm a truck driver with an International with over 1,000 lbs-ft or torque and the body and frame flexes under a load...especially grossing 80,000 lbs.
You probably have an open c-chanel frame which lets it twist and flex because of the massive amount of weight and torque your truck makes. The tundra has a fully boxed frame so you wont see it twist like that.
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They designed the dollies to distribute the weight of the shuttle, and for less friction on the wheels so it is not a dead pull it is normal force (gravity) and a lower force of friction which is less since it the shuttle was not sliding across the ground. With the wheels and weight distribution the truck did tow 297,000 lbs but the effect was less weight than that.
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Originally Posted by LS1Adam84
They designed the dollies to distribute the weight of the shuttle, and for less friction on the wheels so it is not a dead pull it is normal force (gravity) and a lower force of friction which is less since it the shuttle was not sliding across the ground. With the wheels and weight distribution the truck did tow 297,000 lbs but the effect was less weight than that.
Yeah it may not be as hard as it appears, now towing it up the grapevine at 65 with the a/c on may be a different story.

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Originally Posted by 180ls1
Yeah it may not be as hard as it appears, now towing it up the grapevine at 65 with the a/c on may be a different story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xpuu...eature=related
Yeah that is pretty damn impressive lol. And towing up the grapevine with AC at 65 is a whole other story lol you have force of gravity with the weight of the object forcing it back towards the earth or downhill minus the force of the vehicle pulling it opposite of the direction it wants to go lol.
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Originally Posted by LS1Adam84
They designed the dollies to distribute the weight of the shuttle, and for less friction on the wheels so it is not a dead pull it is normal force (gravity) and a lower force of friction which is less since it the shuttle was not sliding across the ground. With the wheels and weight distribution the truck did tow 297,000 lbs but the effect was less weight than that.
Originally Posted by 180ls1
Yeah it may not be as hard as it appears, now towing it up the grapevine at 65 with the a/c on may be a different story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xpuu...eature=related
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Originally Posted by ZexGX
Oh you so cleva!!! lol, yeah I like science it's fun, with science you can make things go boom lol.
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It screams publicity stunt/advertising/$$$.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
It screams publicity stunt/advertising/$$$.
No, No, No Bry you are wrong, they just needed to come and bring a shiny toy. The Tundra must be a better choice than any other truck. bwahahaha.


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