How to register a 2000 with a 2002 engine?
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How to register a 2000 with a 2002 engine? I want to install my LQ4/LS3 topend but the EGR is not compatible. I am thinking since the EGR was dropped for 2001-2002 in the F-body, there should be a way to re-register it as a replacement engine. Is this correct, if so, how do i go about doing this?
For any inspection, I will obviously keep stock manifolds, cats, AIR equipment, etc.
For any inspection, I will obviously keep stock manifolds, cats, AIR equipment, etc.
Why would he swap twice? Just put your motor in and set it up with 2002 emissions, then go to ref and tell them its a replacement engine from a 2002 car. Its not like they're going to test the block material to see if its aluminum. They'll never know its a truck engine. If it looks like a duck......
Put the stock 01/02 AIR stuff on it and call it a day. When you take it to the smog ref their "book" is going to tell them to look for 2002 emissions stuff (for your 2002 camaro engine) and just make sure yours has it. There's no donor vin required, I just went through the whole process with an older vehicle and unless the guy is an LS1 guy he's not going to know the difference. Check into the CARB website, it explains all the rules.
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Thanks jimmard, ill give it a shot. I have a non-egr ls1 intake. Is there anything else aside from the lack of egr on the 01/02's?
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To keep the visual of egr look into the swagelok fitting like used on the slp ls6 manifolds I bought one an had missing nut I ordered it from them
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14382465#post14382465
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14382465#post14382465
Put the stock 01/02 AIR stuff on it and call it a day. When you take it to the smog ref their "book" is going to tell them to look for 2002 emissions stuff (for your 2002 camaro engine) and just make sure yours has it. There's no donor vin required, I just went through the whole process with an older vehicle and unless the guy is an LS1 guy he's not going to know the difference. Check into the CARB website, it explains all the rules.
Once it is in the car, noone is going to know the difference. You cannot tell a 5.3, 5.7, 6.0 apart when its in the car all assembled. No one at DMV is going to be the wiser, just make sure your PCM is setup with the VIN for the vehicle and that you have all the proper smog equiptment for the car.
you can swap a truck engine into a car its just generally not recommended by the state of California. If you go to the referee he will check your car find it has a truck motor then fail you based on that however you can appeal the decision and the state has to prove that the engine is not as efficent as the current engine you have if they cant you get a retest and as long as you pass with in the new engines emissions you pass.
The Ref I went to for my BAR swap used a mirror to check the VIN number on the block and did check to make sure it was aluminum. Interesting point though, MikeyZ, have you had to do that or do you know somebody who has successfully done that? Also, my Ref had a Tech-II scanner and verified that the factory emissions components turned on and off at command of the Tech-II and that the PCM VIN belonged to the same motor/type of car. The three different Referees I've been to were all meticulous with their work. One was even a member here on Tech. lmao.
you should make contact with your local rep and ask him ( on the DL as someone else) some of these guys like to hear them selfs talk and might just let you know what you need to do.
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The Ref I went to for my BAR swap used a mirror to check the VIN number on the block and did check to make sure it was aluminum. Interesting point though, MikeyZ, have you had to do that or do you know somebody who has successfully done that? Also, my Ref had a Tech-II scanner and verified that the factory emissions components turned on and off at command of the Tech-II and that the PCM VIN belonged to the same motor/type of car. The three different Referees I've been to were all meticulous with their work. One was even a member here on Tech. lmao.
There are smog guys and then there are referees. The referees get paid a lot better than your average smog guy, and are usually well educated and not lazy like the average smog/inspection tech making at/near minimum wage. Their job is to determine whether a vehicle is in or out of compliance with the state emissions laws. I noticed that the ones I went to were also auto shop teachers at colleges, specializing in automotive emissions controls. The only way I know to get in touch with one is to schedule an in-person appointment.
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You can get ahold of a ref by phone. Just look up the correct # for your area. They won't be able to tell you much, but at least they might be able to point you in the right direction.
I was planning on swapping a 6.0 into my 3rd gen however got a deal on an alum block. I know its possible because a local offroad shop used to have jeeps come in with 6.0s at least once a week.
A Ref swap is fairly easy if you do it legit they seem to know the tricks and how to test the various sensors an it is free until you pass then its $8.25 which includes a 2 year smog cert.
A Ref swap is fairly easy if you do it legit they seem to know the tricks and how to test the various sensors an it is free until you pass then its $8.25 which includes a 2 year smog cert.