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08-30-2007, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
Peak numbers dont matter ,usuable power within your curve is whats going to win you races and get you low et's!
that matters more at the track..race on the freeway, and a car wit more peak power is gunna win..this isnt braket racing.. thats why there are so many different kinds of cams.. to fit the drivers needs, and for the route they are choosing to go in the long run. different cams make different power curves im sure u kno. u can have a cam wit good high peak numbers, and still have a sick *** hp and tq curve to pull hard through the powerband.
08-30-2007, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
ill put money on that race once i have an intake, gears, and tires.
but yea i kno ur car is faster RITE NOW. but not always.. lol.. and how do u kno i didnt let u go those other two races? LOL
and i dont have to ask christian, chino, or carlos..u didnt answer my question?
yes a 400 car can beat a 500 hp car if they cant get the power to the ground.. everthing comes to play... it depends on how u look at it... if both cars had the same suspension, tires, and driver wit different rwhp one being more then the other.. then its obvious who is going to win. and proves that HP does matter.. u cant race a mustang GT against an ls1 and expect to win. unless the person in the ls1 is a fukin retard. ive seen cars wit less power beat cars with more power to..but theres reasons for it..
U JUST ANSWER UR QUESTION KID !!!!
NOW LETS RACE THOSE STOCK CARS N SEE THE DIFF !!!
08-30-2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by esli ramirez
U JUST ANSWER UR QUESTION KID !!!!
NOW LETS RACE THOSE STOCK CARS N SEE THE DIFF !!!
NOW LETS RACE THOSE STOCK CARS N SEE THE DIFF !!!
i told them bro... they are reading this so let them reply.. i know atleast 3 of them BETTER be down! LOL...
how bout it matt, sergio, and GMmexican??? can adam race two? he dosnt have a cam.
08-30-2007, 06:01 PM
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[QUOTE=stangkiller2005]ok so lets say
my car has 500 rwhp
and your car has 400 rwhp
both have ALL the same suspension mods, and sticky tires. both weigh the same.
both are good drivers..
whos gunna win?
thats a whole different topic. you are now looking at it in a different point of view. the statement was NUMBERS DONT MEAN ****. now your bringin up suspensions mods n tires.
if you wanna talk suspension mods n weigh just look at this guy from norcal1320
1988 mustang gt
race weight of 2900
150 shot of NOS dry system
stock 302 bottom end
Chassis/Suspension:
-10 point cromoly roll cage
-through floor boxed subframe connectors
-welded torque boxes
-D&D Tubular k-member and a-arms
-Lakewood 90/10 struts
-Coil over kit w/ 14” 140# QA1 springs
-Flaming river manual rack with bump steer
-Lakewood 50/50 shocks
-Granatelli upper/lower control arms
-MM caster/camber plates
ET on motor: 11.85
MPH on motor: 113
ET with nitrous; 10.75
MPH with nitrous: 124
Sixty foot on motor: 1.58
Sixty foot with nitrous: 1.48
Dyno numbers on motor: 311 to the rear tires
my car has 500 rwhp
and your car has 400 rwhp
both have ALL the same suspension mods, and sticky tires. both weigh the same.
both are good drivers..
whos gunna win?
thats a whole different topic. you are now looking at it in a different point of view. the statement was NUMBERS DONT MEAN ****. now your bringin up suspensions mods n tires.
if you wanna talk suspension mods n weigh just look at this guy from norcal1320
1988 mustang gt
race weight of 2900
150 shot of NOS dry system
stock 302 bottom end
Chassis/Suspension:
-10 point cromoly roll cage
-through floor boxed subframe connectors
-welded torque boxes
-D&D Tubular k-member and a-arms
-Lakewood 90/10 struts
-Coil over kit w/ 14” 140# QA1 springs
-Flaming river manual rack with bump steer
-Lakewood 50/50 shocks
-Granatelli upper/lower control arms
-MM caster/camber plates
ET on motor: 11.85
MPH on motor: 113
ET with nitrous; 10.75
MPH with nitrous: 124
Sixty foot on motor: 1.58
Sixty foot with nitrous: 1.48
Dyno numbers on motor: 311 to the rear tires
08-30-2007, 06:05 PM
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LOL..im not gunna even start to go back in forth with you... i stated before that it depends on how you look at it. hp does make a difference wen vehicles are the same! you cant compare something and say HP dosnt make a difference when your not even comparing the same thing in the first place. in order for it to be comparable both vehicles need to be exactly the same but one with more HP then the other. when you have that then YES HP MAKES A DIFFERENCE!!! if you compare them where one car has more mods (suspension,tires,weight reduction, and driver) then the other car with more HP and less of everything else then yes. the fact that the other car has more HP becomes irelevant!
08-30-2007, 06:07 PM
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[QUOTE=stangkiller2005
[B]and how do u kno i didnt let u go those other two races[/B]? LOL
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1. he has gears
2. because EDDIE N PABLO pulled on you but didnt pull on him haha
[B]and how do u kno i didnt let u go those other two races[/B]? LOL
QUOTE]
1. he has gears
2. because EDDIE N PABLO pulled on you but didnt pull on him haha
08-30-2007, 06:09 PM
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[QUOTE=Outlaw E36]
i didnt race eddie and pablo with tires my young padawan..i thought u knew traction made a difference!
o and bout ur brothers..u forgot heads, intake, m6 and new motor
Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
[B
[B
and how do u kno i didnt let u go those other two races[/B]? LOL
QUOTE]
1. he has gears
2. because EDDIE N PABLO pulled on you but didnt pull on him haha
QUOTE]
1. he has gears
2. because EDDIE N PABLO pulled on you but didnt pull on him haha
i didnt race eddie and pablo with tires my young padawan..i thought u knew traction made a difference!
o and bout ur brothers..u forgot heads, intake, m6 and new motor
08-30-2007, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
LOL..im not gunna even start to go back in forth with you... i stated before that it depends on how you look at it. hp does make a difference wen vehicles are the same! you cant compare something and say HP dosnt make a difference when your not even comparing the same thing in the first place. in order for it to be comparable both vehicles need to be exactly the same but one with more HP then the other. when you have that then YES HP MAKES A DIFFERENCE!!! if you compare them where one car has more mods then the other car with more HP then yes. the fact that the other car has more HP becomes irelevant!
exactly!!!!!!
same mods (suspension, tires n weigh) HP comes in paly!!
different mods (suspension, tires n weigh) HP #'s dont mean ****!.
now we're on the same page!
08-30-2007, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaw E36
exactly!!!!!!
same mods (suspension, tires n weigh) HP comes in paly!!
different mods (suspension, tires n weigh) HP #'s dont mean ****!.
now we're on the same page!
same mods (suspension, tires n weigh) HP comes in paly!!
different mods (suspension, tires n weigh) HP #'s dont mean ****!.
now we're on the same page!
and thats all you had to say! not simply say HP numbers dont mean ****. if your not specific bout ur statement then its not clear on what you mean witch brought my previous argument
thank you and good nite!
08-30-2007, 06:17 PM
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[QUOTE=stangkiller2005]
i didnt race eddie and pablo with tires my young padawan..i thought u knew traction made a difference!
o and bout ur brothers..u forgot heads, intake, m6 and new motor
i do know traction makes difference. thats why u gotta hurry n get suspension parts and tire asap son!
heads? stock ported heads
intake? ls6 intake
m6? race from a stop! ur an auto!.my money still on the m6. u need a stall, gears, tires!
motor? same cubes 346 but it does have less miles n ****.(u got me here lol)
Originally Posted by Outlaw E36
i didnt race eddie and pablo with tires my young padawan..i thought u knew traction made a difference!
o and bout ur brothers..u forgot heads, intake, m6 and new motor
i do know traction makes difference. thats why u gotta hurry n get suspension parts and tire asap son!
heads? stock ported heads
intake? ls6 intake
m6? race from a stop! ur an auto!.my money still on the m6. u need a stall, gears, tires!
motor? same cubes 346 but it does have less miles n ****.(u got me here lol)
08-30-2007, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by esli ramirez
HAHAHAHAHAHAH OHHH HAHAHHA HAHAHHA
U PULL ON ME PLEASE SON U KNOW I LET U GO NOW IF U REALLY WANT TO KNOW WAT CAN HAP LETS PUT SOME MONEY ON IT MOTOR TO MOTOR
....L0L
JUST ASK MY SON ESAU N CHRISTIAN OR CHINO IF NUMBERS MATTER THEY WLL KNOW WAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!!
U PULL ON ME PLEASE SON U KNOW I LET U GO NOW IF U REALLY WANT TO KNOW WAT CAN HAP LETS PUT SOME MONEY ON IT MOTOR TO MOTOR
....L0L JUST ASK MY SON ESAU N CHRISTIAN OR CHINO IF NUMBERS MATTER THEY WLL KNOW WAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!!
see what happens when you **** around son!! learn your lesson n dont **** around!!
08-30-2007, 06:20 PM
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[QUOTE=Outlaw E36]
i do know traction makes difference. thats why u gotta hurry n get suspension parts and tire asap son!
heads? stock ported heads
intake? ls6 intake
m6? race from a stop! ur an auto!.my money still on the m6. u need a stall, gears, tires!
motor? same cubes 346 but it does have less miles n ****.(u got me here lol)
heads are ls6 acording to wut i heard.. they flow WAY better then mine
intake yes LS6 flows WAY better then mine
and yes stall, gears, and intake will make my car a whole lot faster..
suspensions mods coming soon
Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
i do know traction makes difference. thats why u gotta hurry n get suspension parts and tire asap son!
heads? stock ported heads
intake? ls6 intake
m6? race from a stop! ur an auto!.my money still on the m6. u need a stall, gears, tires!
motor? same cubes 346 but it does have less miles n ****.(u got me here lol)
heads are ls6 acording to wut i heard.. they flow WAY better then mine
intake yes LS6 flows WAY better then mine
and yes stall, gears, and intake will make my car a whole lot faster..
suspensions mods coming soon
08-30-2007, 10:30 PM
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damn, bitch bitch moan moan........... we have a guy with a dam bmw trying to talk sh*t when he himself doesnt have a car to run. and yes i can run my car, i do not have a cam. my car is in the body shop thanks to someone running into me. when the car is finished ill let you know so fast gm's can get one of their "stock" cars to run against me.
peace out!!!!!!!!
peace out!!!!!!!!
08-30-2007, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
i told them bro... they are reading this so let them reply.. i know atleast 3 of them BETTER be down! LOL...
how bout it matt, sergio, and GMmexican??? can adam race two? he dosnt have a cam.
how bout it matt, sergio, and GMmexican??? can adam race two? he dosnt have a cam.
08-30-2007, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
Im down, horsepower doesnt mean anything so as long as i have suspension i can beat 1000hp cars
08-31-2007, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ls1adamls1
damn, bitch bitch moan moan........... we have a guy with a dam bmw trying to talk sh*t when he himself doesnt have a car to run. and yes i can run my car, i do not have a cam. my car is in the body shop thanks to someone running into me. when the car is finished ill let you know so fast gm's can get one of their "stock" cars to run against me.
peace out!!!!!!!!
peace out!!!!!!!!
TALKING ****? WERE DA FUKK IS HE TALKING ****. HE WAS JUST POINT OUT SOME STUFF. BMW? WHO GIVES A **** IF ITS A BIMMER. HE KNOWS HIS LS1 ****. AND WHO SAID HE WAS HERE TO RACE??
BUT............
SO LET ME KNOW WENT UR CAR IS DONE SO I COULD SMOKE U TOO !!!!
N IT AINT GONNA B FOR FREE !!!1ST OF ALL FAST GM'S DONT HAVE ANY STOCK CARS !!!!
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08-31-2007, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GMmexican
Im down, horsepower doesnt mean anything so as long as i have suspension i can beat 1000hp cars
...DAYM JUST SELL YOUR CAR N LEARN YOUR ****!WAIT ARE YOU SURE U DONT WANNA RACE AT THE TRACK WERE ITS SAFE
08-31-2007, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FadedSS
lol....better get those lowering springs. i hear they give you 50 rwhp!
I GOT 4 SO DAT = 200HP
