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Old 03-02-2008, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Long Beach
You can have a pistol grip on a shotgun in ca as long as it has an 18" barrel and an over all length of 28". Not 100% sure but i think that company is banned by name in ca (then again i dont research much about shotguns) For more information check out calguns.net search and you will find out everything you ever wanted to know about CA gun laws
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OK so im **** outta luck. as of 1995 the spas 12 isnt legal in CA. But there was nothing on the list about the Benelli M3


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Originally Posted by WS6_Suicide_Machine
OK so im **** outta luck. as of 1995 the spas 12 isnt legal in CA. But there was nothing on the list about the Benelli M3


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No problem. I saw one with a retractable stock too. Maybe that's an aftermarket piece?

Also, I'm fairly certain there's a shorter barrel available (15 inches?), but you need to be in law enforcement to purchase it. My memory is not as good as it use to be.
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Half the cops do not even know what is legal or not now a days cause the laws change so much. Your best bet would be arizona all you need is an arizona id to purchase one there. Arizona would be your best friend i might head out to yuma when the next show happens and pick some stuff up.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
No problem. I saw one with a retractable stock too. Maybe that's an aftermarket piece?

Also, I'm fairly certain there's a shorter barrel available (15 inches?), but you need to be in law enforcement to purchase it. My memory is not as good as it use to be.
ya there is a shorter barrel, but thats the 5 mag capacity. im looking for 8 mag. And the retractable stock isn't for sale in CA, its for police and military only.

Originally Posted by 180ls1
Half the cops do not even know what is legal or not now a days cause the laws change so much. Your best bet would be arizona all you need is an arizona id to purchase one there. Arizona would be your best friend i might head out to yuma when the next show happens and pick some stuff up.
Ya im guessing thats what i might have to do. and i found out that they don't even make the SPAS anymore, because ATF banned it throughout U.S. but if you bought one before the ban, its yours.

And my list in Yuma would have to be.
1) AK-47

2) Glock 18

3) Smith & Wesson 686 P


the rest i can pick up in CA legally
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I have a .357 686 its a bitchin gun. Ya and i am tired of the top load magazine bullshit like in the new "california legal" ak's.
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me personally i dont like aks they are played out.
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
I have a .357 686 its a bitchin gun. Ya and i am tired of the top load magazine bullshit like in the new "california legal" ak's.
I Shot a 686 1 time, and i was hooked. I need to have 1 of my own. And ya they should just keep them baned if its gonna be that way. The top mount ar-15's are even worse, they want $2200 for it.
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me personally i dont like aks they are played out.
well the only thing i dont like about it is the sights. but the fact that its practically indestructible, they are everywhere, cheap as an airsoft gun in some cases, and the powerful 7.62 round. ill live with the crappy sight system.

plus whats better than a 75 drum mag on it?
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ya i have a mid 90's model on they are a little stronger then the new ones. Ya i called a guy about an sks the other day and he told me $400 i guyss i better go to the fair grounds and see if there are any for $250 still left. And no offense buy the ak is a mess to handle i like the sks much better.
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
ya i have a mid 90's model on they are a little stronger then the new ones. Ya i called a guy about an sks the other day and he told me $400 i guyss i better go to the fair grounds and see if there are any for $250 still left. And no offense buy the ak is a mess to handle i like the sks much better.
Dam... I didn't know there were strength differences in the 686's. And trust no offense taken, i know the Ak's are sloppy, but they'll last almost forever. And i wouldn't be buying it for target shooting. more for a "worst case scenario" situation. Same with the Glock 18

And are you in the AZ area? whered you find a sks for $400?
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No i am in San Diego i just called a local shop and they told me 400 for it but if i go to the del mar (crossroads)g un show i am certain i can find one for under 300 my buddy bought one for 200 about a year ago but they have gone up a lot since then.
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i gotcha. Im headed to the Orange county fair grounds on the 30th for the gun show, hope to find some good things, maybe even find someone to sell me that 686P to someone under 21.
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Ya i got the same problem cause i an only 19. And if you ever head out to arizona there is a place called shooters world where you can shoot whatever you want they have just about any gun you could want to shoot fully auto whatever you want. It is like $25 for the rental and i think they give you 20 rounds i could be wrong but it is badass.
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HA, im 19 too bro. ******* everyones 19 on here.

but thanks for the heads up on the range. Thats just another reason why i need to go out there.

and if your 19, howd u get that S&W?
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Well it is my Dads but he uses his rifle mostly so it is not under my name but i use it more then anyone else in the family.
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
Well it is my Dads but he uses his rifle mostly so it is not under my name but i use it more then anyone else in the family.
Gotcha Gotcha. ya im the only one that likes guns in the family. so gotta start to collection now.
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Originally Posted by WS6_Suicide_Machine
Gotcha Gotcha. ya im the only one that likes guns in the family. so gotta start to collection now.
Ya i have just about had it with all the granola munching tree hugging **** around here when i get my degree i will not be here too much longer. I want to be somewhere where i can own real guns and drive real muscle without having to worry about it.
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http://gunbroker.com/
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Originally Posted by tamikews6
its like "Gun's R Us" in there thanks
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There you go:

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=93854637


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